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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Nettdata

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    Anyone?
     
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    On my phone so I'll post a link a later, but basically his son getting on boards despite having no qualifications whatsoever. You know a lot of drug addicts who get appointed to company boards without even a hint of experience? This has happened like 4 or 5 times.

    Aetius, how is it "not coherent"? You are sure Trump colluded with Russia and entertain things like the Kavanaugh accusations but this isn't coherent enough?

    I'm not talking about the prosecutor, but we're warming up for another round of Hillary level denial all over again.
     
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    lol
     
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    Well, thank god you're cutting down on pointless snark.
     
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    That is snark, but it's not pointless. It was specifically meant to show you just how silly your comment is, all without calling you names or making a personal attack.

    What crime is it that Biden has committed? You still haven't said what Biden is guilty of? His kid getting Board placements on private companies? What's illegal about that?
     
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    Just your run of the mill corruption.

    So you clearly know absolutely nothing about the subject at hand, but want to post stupid snark anyway. Cool. I'll stop wasting my time.
     
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    I think you know nothing about how board placements are made.

    You either start the company, invest substantially in the company, or have some major experience and contacts that the company can exploit.

    Him being appointed is not corruption. Never mind the fact that they are PRIVATE COMPANIES and they can appoint a golden retriever to the board if they wanted.

    Ivanka and Jared doing shit on behalf of the US Government? Without proper security clearances? That’s some major fucking corruption.
     
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    Not a ton, admittedly. Never been quite high up enough, but I do know Hunter Biden had none of the things you listed when he was appointed to the board of Burisma. He had one qualification I can see, and that was that his dad was the US vice president. He had never worked in energy so much as a single day. He had no experience with any energy contracts, but he's qualified for this position? How?

    I'm happy to admit I'm wrong here if you know of some experience he has I'm not aware of. Barring that, it looks really suspicious. Same with his work in Iraq. Just happens to follow foreign domains in which Biden was wielding massive influence.

    By the way, this is a huge issue to progressives as well, it's not just some fringe right wing crack pot theory. The only explanations the Bidens have offered is that all this shit was "bad judgement" but only because of "appearances". Right.

    Younger Joe Biden is on tape saying things like "I was happy to prostitute myself" in regards to corporations. Well, I believe him.

    Again, if someone can point to a bunch of unrelated to daddy qualifications Hunter Biden had then it's perfectly reasonable to write it off as coincidental. Thus far, I have not seen it.
     
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    I still fail to see how this is corruption... yeah, sure, he got appointed due to his access to his father, no doubt. So what? What's Joe going to say, "no, you can't do that?"

    Did Joe ever do anything for those companies based on his relationship with his son who was on any of those Boards?
     
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    Because the accusation is that Joe Biden got a prosecutor fired to protect his son. This would require that Joe Biden personally convinced the White House, the State Department, the European Union, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Monetary Fund, and out-in-the-street protesting members of the Ukrainian public to fire this prosecutor without a valid reason to do so. It would also further require that this prosecutor be investigating Burisma, which he wasn't. It would also further require that the replacement prosecutor be corrupt enough to abandon a well founded investigation of Burisma (which I remind you didn't exist under Shokin), which he wasn't.

    It's not a coherent theory.
     
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    nepotism in itself is not illegal, super shitty most the time but not illegal.
     
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    I'm not talking about the prosecutor.
     
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    Yes, the administration earmarked millions for his son's clients. There is a really long politico article on this that's easy to find, that if anything is much fairer to Biden than most would be, but still highlights literally dozens of conflicts of interest. Shrug off the conflicts if you want, but it's harder to ignore releasing loans and earmarking money.

    Also, Biden made millions off speaking fees in the last couple of years. If anything strains credibility it's the claim that someone would actually pay money just to listen to Biden talk. Let alone fees with a long line of zeros. It's quid quo pro like it always is.

    He's not Hillary bad, but he's done more than just dip his toe in the swamp. I don't get why you guys feel so obligated to defend him.

    In any case even if you put zero stock into anything I'm saying he's a pretty shitty candidate with or without a corrupt past.
     
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    Whether Mr. Biden is a shitty candidate or not, it has zero to do with if a president abused his power and then obstructed the investigation.
     
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    So Trump just gets to out the whistleblower, which is factually against the law, and... that’s that?

    What is the point of even having a Constitution anymore? The piss stains will never come out of it now. And the fact that most of his supporters think this is a-ok speaks volumes as to how watered-down the tribe is.
     
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    Well considering its not illegal to out a whistleblower, I guess so.
     
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    Is the whistleblower protection act of 1989 just noise, then? I mean I already know the guy just does whatever he wants, but Bush DID sign that into law.
     
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    Its not just noise, but the point is to protect against workplace retaliation, it has nothing to do with protecting anonymity. You just cant be fired or demoted solely on the basis of being a whistleblower.
     
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    So... how about that Parnas interview with Maddow?
     
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    Every bit as damning as the time the democrats strong armed Ukraine...