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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Crown Royal

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    Just call me Topher

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    Another thing that can be real inside the USA and nowhere else on earth, like thinking the war of 1812 was a tie.
     
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    It all makes sense now.
    This is all you fuckers’ fault.
     
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    Some of the footage coming out of that Delta crash has been pretty insane.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGMEswSp9Vk/

    Apparently they caught a wingtip in high crosswinds and cartwheeled. Wing and tail separated.

    Kudos to the FD keeping that shit under control.
     
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    Latest video taken from the flight deck of another aircraft waiting to take off shows that the plane just hard landed… didn’t flare, just drove into the ground and collapsed the gear, causing a wing to rip off.

    Nobody will know until the black box is investigated, but it sure looks like pilot error. Probably fixated on the numbers and forgot to flare.

    Crazy.
     
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    I can’t watch with sound - so some rando parked specifically to take a perfect video of this flight?
     
  9. Nettdata

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    A ton of pilots take airplane videos because they love planes.

    That's a pilot in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting to take off and videos the landing... you even hear him call the tower to make sure they just saw the airplane crashed.

    In that Reddit thread a ton of pilots come clean that they have hundreds of such videos on their cameras from doing the same thing. Pilots doing pilot stuff. Go figure, they really like airplanes.
     
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    An interview I saw said the plane's approach speed was way too slow, and decent rate was about twice what is typical. Pilot probably started out way high and slowed too much to really have lift or control of the plane by the time they made the runway. Here's the interview... I don't know where he gets his speed and decent numbers, I'm guessing ADS-B exchange.

     
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    Thanks, my brain didn’t even think to consider it wasn’t from a car.
     
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    Could be. It'll be interesting to see what the accident report says about it.
     
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    The snow you can see the blowing in the background of the pilot video looks pretty close to the same azimuth as the runway, giving them a strong headwind.

    My guess is the blowing snow was randomly obscuring the runway to the point they got fixated on the runway numbers. Snow can also play hell with depth perception.

    It's possible a wind gust hit them at just the wrong time to kill forward speed enough that they overcorrected and essentially dove for the runway. That would explain the right wing drop, lack of flare and excessive sink rate.

    Like Nett said, that AIB should be interesting.
     
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    Another point regarding the Delta flight crash.

    For the passengers, that was a normal landing until the right main collapsed. Then all hell broke loose. Think about how heavy and not secure passengers bags are in the cabin during the roll over. Also, in the passenger's video at least one other passenger looks like they had their backpack on which means they stopped to grab their bag. There's plenty of examples of people surviving the crash only to die from the smoke because fellow passengers block escape routes trying to take bags with them.

    They're also lucky the wings detached, as that most likely removed most of the remaining fuel from the immediate vicinity. I don't know if that aircraft does or not, but as I've stated before, most aircraft burn fuel from the main body tanks first.

    There's a reason you'll never see me on a flight wearing shorts & flip flops or clothing made of material with a low melting point.
     
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    An interesting video about Avian Influenza.