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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Aetius

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    But again, is that worse than what he actually did, which was to retweet a call for Liz Cheney to be tried for treason before a military tribunal? I can see the media criticism argument, but I can't see the leap to where this means Trump was so unfairly maligned and criticized as to warrant whatever the fuck we just did. "The media said he wanted to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, but really he just wanted to try her for a capital offense without due process, at which point she would, y'know, probably end up in front of a firing squad."

    The fact that the media sucks does not mean Trump's reputation is unearned. He is worse than even they said he was.
     
  2. sisterkathlouise

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    Let’s not rub it in too hard, it’s still pretty raw.

    This message board is basically the most conservative place I spend any time, and y’all had me thinking that there were a bunch if reasonable centrists who were going to go out and vote for Kamala because they recognized that trump is a giant piece of shit. I knew I lived in an insular bubble but maybe I didn’t realize the extent.
     
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    Not to be forgotten, a somber day for Grover Cleveland.

    Being the first is still cool, but no more can he say he’s the only one.
     
  4. dixiebandit69

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    Just a reminder: the whole reason we're even in this situation is because Hillary Clinton just HAD to have her turn in 2016.

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    That really bothers me, too. You just know that Trump is never going to shut up about it.
     
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    The irony of her concession being the best speech she's ever given is unreal.
     
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    It’s like Biden jogging over to the press pool. Unburdened by what has been.
     
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    I don't think so. You really needed a Romney win in 2012 to prevent trump. I don't think any democrat, besides Obama, could've beaten trump in 2016.
     
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    I pretty well don't give a shit any more.

    It's expected. I'm not going to waste my time over it.

    If shit melts to the ground, oh well... you get what you voted for.
     
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    That's kind of how I feel, now, too. Especially since she lost the popular vote. By a lot. If she had won it, I would have never let it go.

    I already did my part, so the only thing I can do now is buckle up and enjoy the ride, and hope that the Dems have a serious "Come to Jesus" moment, and stop trying to push these shitty candidates, shitty policies, and shitty ideologies.
    I think they just found out that the US isn't as far-left as their echo-chambers would have them believe.

    Hey, look on the bright side: We'll finally get rid of that dumb cunt, Karine Jean-Pierre! And that stupid swamp-hag, Janet Yelen! And that useless fag, Mayor Pete! And that... Well, I think you see where I'm going with this.
     
  11. Aetius

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    Interesting statistic: In battleground states, Harris underperformed 2020 by 1.6 points, in the non-battleground states, she underperformed by 3.9 points.

    Put another way, in the places where Harris and Trump campaigned heavily, she gained 2.3 points compared to her baseline. This clearly wasn't an issue of running a poor campaign; it was something structural.
     
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    For the record, I didn’t say that he was innocent. But the statement about Liz Cheney and entering U.S. into war is one where it was taken completely out of context and made out like he wanted to out her in front of a firing squad.

    Just like Al Gore’s. I remember turning to my wife and saying if he had been like that during the campaign he’d have won. Hell I probably would have voted for him.
     
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    I’ve pretty much felt that way the past few years. Basically, what’s gonna happen will happen, nothing I can do about it at this point.
     
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    Yes, it was taken out of context*, but so was Biden's "garbage" statement, and yet the fact that both the Trump campaign and the media went in on it for days on end remains unremarked upon. I'm not trying to defend the media, I'm just pushing back on the idea that the media is so uniquely unfair to Trump that it constitutes some crisis that warps public perception of the man beyond the bounds of reality.

    *Although as I mentioned, the further context includes the fact that Trump had already wished for Liz Cheney to face a firing squad.
     
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    There was a tweet saying that if 1.1% of people voted accross like three of the blue wall states or something, Harris would be president. This also seems to track with some stuff about the youth just not being informed with many googling about registration on DAY OF as well as not even being aware that Biden had dropped out. The key problem seems to be outreach and messaging in all of this as well as getting people to you know...fucking VOTE!

    Found it.

    https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1854291921864110393
     
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    You are really reading too much into my statements, so rather than repeat myself yet again I’ll just stop right here. Have a good night.