But again, is that worse than what he actually did, which was to retweet a call for Liz Cheney to be tried for treason before a military tribunal? I can see the media criticism argument, but I can't see the leap to where this means Trump was so unfairly maligned and criticized as to warrant whatever the fuck we just did. "The media said he wanted to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, but really he just wanted to try her for a capital offense without due process, at which point she would, y'know, probably end up in front of a firing squad." The fact that the media sucks does not mean Trump's reputation is unearned. He is worse than even they said he was.
Let’s not rub it in too hard, it’s still pretty raw. This message board is basically the most conservative place I spend any time, and y’all had me thinking that there were a bunch if reasonable centrists who were going to go out and vote for Kamala because they recognized that trump is a giant piece of shit. I knew I lived in an insular bubble but maybe I didn’t realize the extent.
Not to be forgotten, a somber day for Grover Cleveland. Being the first is still cool, but no more can he say he’s the only one.
Just a reminder: the whole reason we're even in this situation is because Hillary Clinton just HAD to have her turn in 2016. EDIT: That really bothers me, too. You just know that Trump is never going to shut up about it.
DOJ moving to wind down Trump criminal cases before he takes office The level of corruption we're about to witness will be staggering.
I don't think so. You really needed a Romney win in 2012 to prevent trump. I don't think any democrat, besides Obama, could've beaten trump in 2016.
I pretty well don't give a shit any more. It's expected. I'm not going to waste my time over it. If shit melts to the ground, oh well... you get what you voted for.
That's kind of how I feel, now, too. Especially since she lost the popular vote. By a lot. If she had won it, I would have never let it go. I already did my part, so the only thing I can do now is buckle up and enjoy the ride, and hope that the Dems have a serious "Come to Jesus" moment, and stop trying to push these shitty candidates, shitty policies, and shitty ideologies. I think they just found out that the US isn't as far-left as their echo-chambers would have them believe. Hey, look on the bright side: We'll finally get rid of that dumb cunt, Karine Jean-Pierre! And that stupid swamp-hag, Janet Yelen! And that useless fag, Mayor Pete! And that... Well, I think you see where I'm going with this.
Interesting statistic: In battleground states, Harris underperformed 2020 by 1.6 points, in the non-battleground states, she underperformed by 3.9 points. Put another way, in the places where Harris and Trump campaigned heavily, she gained 2.3 points compared to her baseline. This clearly wasn't an issue of running a poor campaign; it was something structural.
For the record, I didn’t say that he was innocent. But the statement about Liz Cheney and entering U.S. into war is one where it was taken completely out of context and made out like he wanted to out her in front of a firing squad. Just like Al Gore’s. I remember turning to my wife and saying if he had been like that during the campaign he’d have won. Hell I probably would have voted for him.
I’ve pretty much felt that way the past few years. Basically, what’s gonna happen will happen, nothing I can do about it at this point.
Yes, it was taken out of context*, but so was Biden's "garbage" statement, and yet the fact that both the Trump campaign and the media went in on it for days on end remains unremarked upon. I'm not trying to defend the media, I'm just pushing back on the idea that the media is so uniquely unfair to Trump that it constitutes some crisis that warps public perception of the man beyond the bounds of reality. *Although as I mentioned, the further context includes the fact that Trump had already wished for Liz Cheney to face a firing squad.
There was a tweet saying that if 1.1% of people voted accross like three of the blue wall states or something, Harris would be president. This also seems to track with some stuff about the youth just not being informed with many googling about registration on DAY OF as well as not even being aware that Biden had dropped out. The key problem seems to be outreach and messaging in all of this as well as getting people to you know...fucking VOTE! Found it. https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1854291921864110393
You are really reading too much into my statements, so rather than repeat myself yet again I’ll just stop right here. Have a good night.
I wasn't old enough to vote in 2000, but that was the first time I remember observing politics. I have vague recollections of Ross Perot doing his presentations or whatever, but Bush/Gore was the first I can actually recall. That aside, Allan Litchman spiraling over his incorrect prediction is soothing. Strange how guessing 13 binary choices doesn't make someone Nostradamus.
It’s been a few years, but I’m Ross Perot was my first presidential vote. Those infomercials he did cracked me up.
God, his shtick was so full of shit. "There are 13 keys and 13 keys only! Ignore the fact that literally any trait that all candidates have shared in our very small sample size of Presidential races would not appear in the data, even if it was a key." "Not a pig" isn't one of his keys, but I promise you if one of the candidates was a literal farm animal, it would become the key mighty fucking quick.
Couple of things. What's the new Twitter? I can't support the platform any longer and will basically be treating it like I did anything Sheldon Adelson had his hands in when he targeted online gambling, specifically poker, during 2010's, a straight up boycott of anything related to the guy with absolute fervor. It is very good for "breaking news" type things or just having short reddit like conversations with people, so something similar would be great. Secondly, does anyone on this board have experience with the realities of giving up your US citizenship? My wife is Australian and we are just about to finish closing on our house and packing up and moving back there. If we were staying here, I wanted to try and become more politically active and start running for some government offices. I would like to try doing that in Australia, but you have to become a citizen to hold public office and can't have dual citizenship, so it would be a full renouncing of my US citizenship. I've read a few things about it and I don't know if it's just the extreme stories, but what I've read says they basically treat you like a terrorist if you ever want to step foot in the US again. Not sure if I'm just coming across the horror stories, or if someone has actual experience with it.