Let's just say, if this guy can get into the HoF, so can Warner. I agree with what people have been saying with second year, but if it were up to me he should be first ballot. I'd say it's 50-50 right now. To do what he's done with two different teams and systems is pretty amazing.
I was going to red dot you but I think you deserve the entire boards wrath for this post. He had forty four yards total. He also got his two TD's because the Ravens had taken such a commanding lead, played prevent Defense and made sure Moss couldn't beat them with the big play. Now I'm know expert but that sounds like the number four WR that does not get covered when the opposing team is winning 24-0.
Broadway Joe!!! How dare you!! His fur coat and arrogance alone get's him in the Hall of fame. However if that still is not enough than this famous interview immortalizes him in the hall.......... <a class="postlink" href="http://www.spike.com/video/joe-namath-i-want-to/2483773" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.spike.com/video/joe-namath-i-want-to/2483773</a>
Looks like a penalty to me. What bothered me most when I was watching the game was that Fitzgerald blatantly shoved Woodson down on both of his TDs. How is that not pass interference? Then people were talking about how physical he was all day. Yeah ok, how about Woodson just tackles him before the pass even gets thrown. Not complaining too much though. The packers had plenty of opportunities to win, and like players, you can't expect the refs to have a perfect game.
That's because it WAS one and the play before that the defender led with his helmet when he smacked Rodgers. TWO missed calls right there let alone the fucking offensive pass interference...S. I am fully willing to admit the D-Line should be ashamed of themselves. They were non-existent in the first half and hit and miss in the second. You cannot win a game on offense alone. Their O basically ran train on the Packers defense. Second best in the divison? Apparently not when it counts. And Warner yeah yeah he's good, throwing right down the middle shredding the defense but when the defense in bending over spreading their own cheeks what the fuck else would happen? I'm fucking pissed off and hate everything today. Fucking shit. Suck. Shitpussy. Bitchass. Shitty. Fucking FUCK. Season over. Fail. Fuck. Shut up.
Interesting playoff picture this year. No Patriots. No Giants. No Je....hold on. Wait a tic. The Jets outlasted the Pats AND the Giants? Their smug smiles have been wiped from their faces? Their obnoxious shit-talking has been silenced? My, my, my. How the tables have turned. A divisional playoff game in Sanchez's first year. I'll take it, and I won't ask for much more. Except for Brett Favre to suffer a career-ending face explosion. Then, verily, vengeance is mine.
I can understand being upset, but I for one am glad to see that the officials are starting to use common sense in some of these penalty calls. Im tired of seeing big plays getting called back because a guy 30 yards away from the ball held or blocked in the back. It had no affect on the play. Neither did that face mask. Rodgers did not have the ball and that guys hand on his mask did nothing to affect that. If Rodgers had not instinctively kicked the ball, it would have hit the ground and been called arm moving forward or the tuck rule or something like that, which would have been fine. But Rodgers was not going to catch that ball or recover that fumble. Calling a penalty would have only delayed the inevitable. I do agree on the Fitzgerald 1handed TD catch. A defender cant even breathe on a WR, but those guys can prisonrape a DB and it rarely gets called. Jason Witten ought to just cut guy's hamstrings Rambo style, it would be less obvious. You have to have some room to play physical defense.
I fully agree that the amount of calls in some games is just ridiclous. I do not agree that the facemask had no affect on the play. I think he did have the ball, barely but in my opinion he did and a face mask is a face mask is a face mask, it's not a guy, like you said, 30 yards from the play that didn't and couldn't have affected the play. It was a face mask on a QB in OT and it should have been called. The fact he kicked it doesn't matter. Yes he should have tucked, we all know that but just because he didn't does not negate the face mask. Again I say, it was a Wildcard game, playoff births were on the line not calling a facemask in that situation merely because "Calling a penalty would have only delayed the inevitable" is crap. It should have been called, win or lose resulting.
Normally I agree, but you can't exactly fault the ref on this one, the back judge, who should have made that call, couldn't. The reason being is that his primary responsibility on that play was tracking the ball to make sure it was called a tuck if it hits the ground or fumble, because it was kicked in the air he had to track it and then Dansby (go Auburn) to make sure that everything was fair play.
The defender's hand winding up on the mask had no affect on Rodgers dropping that ball. He was not dragged down by the mask, the guy's hand just wound up there AFTER knocking the ball out. At the very least, it should have been a fumble and then maybe a penalty for a facemask. It should not have changed the possession back to GB. By inevitable I meant that it should have been Arizona's ball at what, the 20 yard line? They were going to win that game if that had been ruled a fumble, not an interception.
Exactly my point. The defender knocked the ball out of Rodgers hand and THEN his hand hit the facemask. The ball was already out. Giving the ball back to GB as a result of that would have been a much bigger travesty. If the ball hit the ground, I can see maybe pulling that bullshit tuck rule thing out, but it was picked off in mid air. Rodgers would not and could not have done anything different if the guys hand would not have hit his mask.
Riiiiiiiight kinda like Rackers should have made that FG ending it with a win in regulation. Part of why I love football is because you never, ever, know what's going to happen. What do you expect from a Packer fan today? We agree to disagree.
Maybe it wasn't so 'instinctive' as it was clumsy because he felt like his neck was about to get snapped off. Face masking is illegal for good reason, it's fucking dangerous. Penalties should always count. I don't trust the refs to use their judgement in determining what effect the penalty had on the play. That's too big of a grey area and the players know the rules, it's their own damn fault when they break them. However, I do agree that they should allow play to be more physical. The number of roughing the passer/kicker flags this season has been absurd. The packers got flagged yesterday for roughing the passer when contact was initiated BEFORE Warner even released the ball. How does that happen? We had calls go our way too though. Jennings might have only been brushed, but he ran another twenty yards after he should have been ruled down.
I have never seen a professional athlete more nervous than that guy. He looked like he just got busted with his dick in the babysitter.
It was instinctive in the fact that when you drop something, you usually try to stop it from hitting the ground. I know ive dropped glasses while emptying the dishwasher and stuck my foot out only to have the glass break on my foot and cut the shit out of me. His head barely moved. It was snapped in any fashion. The defender's hand hit and got tangled in his mask, but the ball was 100% out and gone at that point. If his hand would have hit the mask and THEN the ball came out, it should have been called. Even at the same time, but it was well after the basll was out. I think the no-call was the best way to go.
Got to 7:00 here: His head barely moved? He held onto his face mask all the way to the ground. If you pay close attention you'll see Rodgers' head bob as he goes down. According to the rules that should be flagged 100% of the time. You're free to your opinion on that rule, but it should be consistently applied to all plays. As for whether it was instinctive or clumsy, I'm going to drop it to avoid getting pedantic.
PACKERS SUCK THIS JUST IN: THE PACKERS SUCK!!!! I'm glad they lost. They're all a bunch of pussies. The facemask non call had nothing to do with the outcome. It happened after the fumble, and we know Rodgers wasn't going to chase after the ball to risk being hurt. The Cardinals are a better team and were able to win when it mattered. To all of you Packer Fans out there......BETTER LUCK NEXT YEAR!
Re: PACKERS SUCK Hey Dickbag, in a game where the Packers scored 45 points in the second half it certainly is not a stretch to say it may have. 15 yards is fucking 15 yards. There is NO WAY to know if it would have changed the outcome, what I do know is that because of the non-call we'll never know but, it sure as shit could have. Douche. And next time post your not-making-any-point-trash-talking to the right thread.
Re: PACKERS SUCK Rebuttal to your arguments: 1. when scoring 45 second half points in a game that you STILL LOST is an argument for why you would have won had they made the facemask call, you need to re-address your issues. Perhaps if the Arizona receivers weren't wide open all day long, the Packers could have had a chance. Or the fact that Arizona ran at will, to name a few. And in regards to the facemask, do you think that had his facemask not been held, he would have been able to break the tackle and jump on the ball? Seeing as how he led the league in sacks in the regular season, I don't believe he could have. 2. My trash talking made perfect sense. The Packers suck. 3. I posted to the correct thread.