He's making a solid case at being the second best in football behind Manning. If he could do anything in the playoff's he would be a shoe in. Obviously Brees and Brady are the argued number two's but with River's complete lack of a true number one WR and a real running game he is making quite a case. Big guy strong arm and an accurate passer, I'm embarrassed to admit I thought Cutler was going to be the better QB during the Rivers-Cutler feuds. This guy is the real deal.
Good point. If they hadn't pulled that game out of their asses late in the game they very well may have.
Are we still on the Jets? I mean, they shit a game against Green Bay, and ALMOST shit a game against the Lions. Did they get hot too early? Can they order WR gloves that are sticky and not greased with bacon fat? Is Mark Sanchez a choke artist? (YES). The Patriots are going to be the Patriots. They are looking like the team that won Superbowls with a slightly more flexible defense. The Patriots are going to be a lot of those teams listed previously because Bill will coach them. Except for Tomlin/LaBeau. The Browns run because everyone is fucking asleep on Peyton Hillis, Colt McCoy is still pissed about getting injured in the BCS (see: huge chip on shoulder for life) and Mangini knows Bill like the back of his fucking hand. Can't find the stat but Bill is below .500 going against his former assistants. Phillip Rivers is an elite quarterback. Let the man get a real coach and healthy professional wide receivers and he's there. I think Green Bay is better than the Giants. I am probably biased because I'm a Patriots fan, I hate them for 2008 and I hate anyone named Manning. I think Coughlin is washed up, but his players play tough because he plays their egos like fiddles. Coughlin out-coaches McCarthy easily. And...can we just not talk about the Bears? Please. I know they won, but I know they're going to hit me again, and not because they love me. I'd bet $50 Wade Phillips wanted to get fired. They guy lost his soul months ago. Probably last year. No fire at all.
Really? Sanchez a choke artist? On the Jets' last three drives (2 in the 4th, one in OT) Sanchez was 10/13 for ~150 yards and had a rushing touchdown. And one of those incompletions was a spike. I'm not a Jets fan by any means, but people need to stop shitting on Sanchez. The kid is the real deal. In a year or two he'll be a top 5 QB no doubt in my mind.
Does he have potential? Sure. But top 5 is a HUGE stretch. Manning, Brady, Rivers, Brees, and Schaub, and Rodgers are very easily above him, and will remain there in my opinion.
Really, huge doubt in mine. He won't be better than Peyton in two years not better than Brees, Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, or Big Ben. I could probably throw in Tony Romo, Tom Brady and even Eli Manning before Sanchez. Honestly what are you watching? He has 10 TD's and 5 INT's and is completing 53% of his passes. He has a 79.4 passer rating if that's worth anything. Honestly top five is just plain stupid, what has he done in any game that makes you think he can be a top five QB in the NFL? He is doing a good job leading the team, and I wouldn't call him a choker. However he is far from exceptional and I don't see him getting anywhere a pro-bowl team in some time. His team is a prominent running team and he is doing an average job of not making many mistakes. Just to give you an idea most people are in agreement that Matt Schaub is having an off year. He has the same amount of TD's, two more interceptions and 300 more yards. Don't be surprised if Sanchez never really emerges as a big time QB. If the Jet D starts floundering and they don't get the wins very soon they will start looking for a new QB in two years. Flacco and Ryan set some high standards for Rookie QB's, this being Sanchez's second year he has yet to have an exceptional game. His numbers are very similar to Sam Bradford a rookie of an awful team and I think Matt Stafford looks better than Sanchez as well. The one thing I will agree with you on is as long as he keeps winning he will be fine.
I want to be fair about this, and Sanchez has also seen a LOT of his passes dropped. I don't just mean fell short or tough catches the guy could have made. I mean straight into their hands and/or chest dropped. Cotchery dropped more passes than he caught, and Braylon Edwards has a known history of having butterfingers. Watching that Lions game, I saw guys drop pass after pass that would have kept drives going and resulted (IMHO) in a much different game. Sanchez's completion percentage should have been MUCH higher than it was. Now, will he one day be a top 5 QB? I don't think so. That being said, I think he'll be in the top 10 to 15 of the league, and given how good the Jets defense is capable of playing, and given the Jets pretty strong running game, I think that is all Sanchez needs to be to lead the team to the Superbowl. Roethlesberger, in his first couple of years, was not exactly a top 5 QB, and yet he led the Steelers to Superbowls. Now, he is considered one of the top QBs in the league. I think Sanchez can follow that same pattern (hopefully minus the rape allegations and motorcycle-riding-without-a-helmet dumbassery).
The Steelers won Roethlesberger's first Superbowl in spite of him, not because of him. He had the lowest passer rating in Superbowl history (though it was a bit of a fluke game for him). Sanchez definitely doesn't have the same talent or skill set that Big Ben has, though. I don't see Sanchez leading the Jets anywhere. Its his job to make sure he doesn't screw up / add balance while letting the run game and defense carry the team.
Well let's put Mark into a category here. Because you can't talk about the top 5 because there are two types of quarterbacks. Game Managers and Game Winners. Game Managers, don't make mistakes, usually are backed by godlike defenses, and there is serious balance aka Trent Dilfer. Game Winners are obvious Payton, Tom and Drew. Is Mark a Game Winner or is he just going to top off at a really fucking great Game Manager? I have to argue for the Game Manager. I don't feel like he has the skill set or personality to on his own, put the fear of god into a defense. Another question to ask yourself watching him him play: are you saying "Wow that was an amazing catch?" or "Wow that was an amazing throw?" more? And after the Steelers start, the return of White Mamba, and thinking about that Superbowl, I'm thinking that Big Ben is the number 1 elite Game Manager currently. Especially when you consider their defense and pound the rock mentality. I could be wrong about Big Ben, but you know Game Winning QBs out the gate, I don't think Mark is one.
I think I have an idea of where you are going here but I think it's to forced, also the two category thing is kind of silly. First off Peyton and the greats are not only magnificent managers but they are Game Winners are they not? Mark Sanchez in neither. He is a QB surrounded by a boatload of talent on both sides of the football and has come through. He still has fumbles and interceptions so he is hardly mistake proof he does however come through when the Jet's need him. Trent Dilfer is a good example, when a team is so overloaded with defensive talent (and in the Jet's case RB's) he doesn't need to be the big player. We are so used to the QB being the field general and the focal point that we almost always associate that position with the best player on the team. Big Ben once said the worst thing about playing QB is "We get too much credit for when we win and too much blame when we lose." Can you think of a better example of the winning aspect then Sanchez. Someone mentioned him being in the top five which was one of the stupidest things I have ever seen on the sports board, I will manipulate that and say that their are only about five QB's in the league that could not immediately replace Sanchez and have success.
Well what's the third category? Or even fourth category? Manning & Brady are game winners because they are good enough to mask the fact they have receivers no one has ever fucking heard of, and their defense is solid 2 out of every 4 downs. I've already acknowledged that his WR's gloves are lathered in bacon grease. But reduce the effectiveness of his defense by a third, does that murder the team? I think so. This is all hypothetical of course. What's the Verdict on Matt Ryan right now? Or the Falcons in general. I think only one game was available for me to watch and I missed it.
I take it you didn't see that final drive against Arizona in the super bowl? Ben can win games for them, he just doesn't have to do it alone like Manning does.
Yikes. It would appear things are beyond being just a little rocky. If it's that bad why hasn't management stepped in and done something? At what point is that the next step? I read another story more focused around the "heated discussion" with Harvin yesterday saying it was far more just that. I believe it was the offensive coordinater that had to step betweem them and one of the players had to physically lead Harvin away from Childress. If it wasn't the way they've been on the field so far this season (with one exception and they barely eeked that out) that doomed them, shit like this certainly can do it.
In my opinion Childress should have already been fired. His lack of people skills and leadership qualitites have been detrimental to the team since he started. He's also one of the worst in-game coaches in the league. The problem is he led the vikings to the NFC championship last season, and has assembled an abundance of talent. My guess is they'll wait until the end of the season to fire him when the vikings miss the playoffs. However, constantly hearing/reading issues like those present in the above article make me wonder if he's insufferable enough to write his ticket out sooner. Seriously though, he's done. It's just a matter of when.
Pretty much this. From the very beginning of his tenure he demonstrated poor relations with is players; right after he was hired he had some kind of disagreement with Antoine Winfield - one of the leaders of the team - and there were rumors that Winfield was nearly released because of it. He was able to get away with this because the previous head coach, Mike Tice, was viewed as letting the players run the locker room and there were several off the field conduct incidents (remember the love cruise!) so Childress's iron-fisted leadership was tolerated. Couple that with his obvious deficiencies in the coaching department and it's clear he has to go.
If people are using Randy Moss as an excuse to fire Chilly, I say stop. Moss was a Cancer, although for a very specific reason. Moss couldn't deal with a coach that didn't dictate his every move. Childress trusts his players and lets them ride. Moss wanted (T.O.- like) to be the focus of the offense, rather than a (very good) piece of it. Childress recognizes that his offense consists of various relievers (such as as Percy Harvin) Good core, Good TE (Visanthe Schiancoe), and Fucking Adrian Peterson. Moss couldn't stand trying to fit in to that offense. I'm willing to bet they told him to run a go route 5 of 6 plays. He got dropped when he CLEARLY quit on the deep pass in the Pats v Vikes game : <a class="postlink" href="http://www.iviewtube.com/videos/171527/randy-moss-quits-on-play-released-by-vikings-video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.iviewtube.com/videos/171527/ ... ings-video</a> Come the fuck on, if you want to tell me he was trying there. Good riddance, I'm burying my 84 jersey again.
Moss isn't the only reason to fire Childress, but he is definitely A reason. From what I've heard (on the radio in Chicago, mind you), Childress never wanted Moss, but Wolf wanted to get him, so he sent a 3rd round pick to NE for Moss. Childress waited for an excuse, any excuse, to cut Moss, and he did so for a few reasons: 1) He never wanted him in the first place 2) He wanted to give Wolf an excuse to fire him that wasn't 'this team is under performing, the all-star QB hates him, and he is a fucking idiot.' By releasing Moss and giving up a 3rd round pick for absolutely nothing, he was giving two big giant middle fingers to Zygi Wolf. Childress, by virtually every account, is hated in his own locker room. His players hate him, his future hall-of-fame QB (who, admittedly, is a giant douche) hates him. Moss hated him. He almost got into a fist fight with Percy Harvin, for fuck sake. What more reason do you need that this asswipe needs to be fired. Just don't fire him before they play the Bears on Sunday. With Childress as the coach, I think the Bears have a chance to win. Clearly, his guys don't give a fuck about him, and he is now one giant distraction to his own team. It isn't a matter of 'if' but 'when' for Childress. Honestly, even if the Vikings pull off a miracle and make the playoffs, anything short of a Superbowl at this point will result in Childress being shown the door.