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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by bewildered, Dec 14, 2019.

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  1. wexton

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    I generally have to go to a chiropractor a few times a year. If i went to the gym and stretched all the time i probably wouldn't have to, even while being active playing hockey 4 times a week i was still going. The mussels in my SI joints are fucked and my hips seize up, i have actually had them seize up so bad that i couldn't walk. First time it happened i heard a pop and it got really sore, powered through the day, went to get up in the morning my foot hit the floor and i hit the floor.
     
  2. Improper

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    I don't think anyone refutes that a good chiropractor can set the column straight, which is great. However, proper stretching and strength building then hold that column.

    Chiropractic is just one tool, and it does what it does. No negatives from me on it.
     
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    It’s an awful truth, because body positivity is important and all, but soooo so so so so many times the most basic fix is better quality calories in lower amounts in, higher activity level and weight bearing movement out.
    Losing weight requires a caloric deficit.
    But wellness - in my very not medical experience - requires some level of attention to building and maintaining muscle mass.

    And our bodies are generally happier not carrying significantly excess weight.

    I do love a chiro visit when I’m strength training though.
     
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    So that's what I've been doing wrong the past month.

    We'll, shit.
     
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    Interesting use of an apostrophe there. You guys take communal shits or something?
     
  6. shimmered

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    Dude I don’t even poop when someone else is in the restroom at work. And we have floor to ceiling walled in stalls.
     
  7. shimmered

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    It’s obvious. Right?

    But people DO NOT want to hear that.
    Because being hungry is fucking uncomfortable, and generally for most Americans it’s a super unfamiliar feeling.

    So yeah. It’s pretty obvious.

    But food discipline is hard, and most people want the easy way around.
     
  8. Revengeofthenerds

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    Not necessarily... not all the time, at least. Depends on what type and amount of exercise you're doing, and what your diet is. You need fuel to in order to lift, and protein in order to repair your muscles. That stuff doesn't come cheap. If you want to build muscle properly while you're doing it, you need those lean proteins, good fats, and carbs as fuel. I actually had to start eating significantly more calories in order to maintain my program at the gym, which in turn caused me to lose weight. For me, getting enough calories each day is the hard part, even though I'm still losing weight and building muscle at the same time.

    But yes generally, you'd like to see a calorie deficit if you're just hitting the treadmill and doing the "eating your body fat as fuel" thing. Fasting, cutting weight. I think you used to do crossfit right? Aren't they big on bulking then cutting down to lean out?
     
  9. Rush-O-Matic

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    Yes, necessarily. Unless you are lopping off body parts. Given your past history, that may be how you roll.
     
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    Exactly. It’s an energy in : energy out ratio.
     
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    Yep. Calories burned through exercise can be improperly calculated but that is the absolute bare bottom of weight reduction. People are also really bad at estimating quantities of food if they are trying to count calories.

    I bought a food scale after college. You weigh food before you cook it. I ate very simply and it was a fat and protein heavy diet. Only exercise was a long walk with the dog daily. I was able to lose about 42lbs in 3mo.
     
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    You need roughly 6 calories a day to maintain each pound of muscle, and 2 calories a day to maintain each pound of fat. Depending on body composition, in order to maintain muscle growth, you're taking in a lot of calories in the form of protein. Good vs. bad calories. Not every calorie turns into fat. If you increase your metabolism through exercise and resistance training (time under tension, high rep lower weight), yes you do need to eat more in order to lose weight.

    Or are we talking losing muscle too? Because yeah, you can starve yourself and lose muscle. In that case, duh, cut calories wherever you can and let your body do its thing. But I was assuming we were talking about losing weight as in fat loss, while keeping the good stuff, i.e. muscle?
     
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    Not necessarily.

    when I started CrossFit (05) it was about moving hard and fast and not eating shitty food. Glassman had a nutrition manifesto that was like 100 words or so. I’m pretty sure it was glassman.

    Building muscle requires calories. Absolutely.
    And novice athletes or clients or whatever are going to be all over the place results wise because they mostly come in squishy with minimal muscle mass and lots of excess fat.

    Even adjusting calories to create a mild deficit (or just a flat even exchange) those people will build muscle AND burn fat because their body composition has that room to shift around.
    Feeding muscle and lifting heavy is great, but a caloric surplus is going to keep a lifted fluffy.
    And most gym bros highly overestimate their output while grossly underestimating their caloric intake. Protein shakes and bars and peanut butter and supplements and on and on.

    Surplus calories means weight stays on.


    And the evolution of CrossFit as it is now sucks. I miss my dirty gym and stacks of plates and so on.

    I fuckin love strongman though.
     
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    The auto correct on this ducking phone has a mind of its own most days.
     
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    Autocorrect has gotten wacky as hell. It will just randomly make shit up now.
     
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    Convinced my doctor to keep me off high bp meds for the time being after I showed the 15% drop I’ve accomplished in just a few weeks.

    Alternative medicine is a funny thing. It’s mocked until it works. Then, depending on the group, it’ll be heralded as a wonder drug or the hate will be doubled down since it’s perceived as a threat.
     
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    For me personally it was a simpler equation to simply lose weight first and then ramp up a fitness routine with weight lifting afterwards. I wasn't fighting my overweight, out of shape self. I saw constant, gradual results that also helped me stick with it. Food is a hobby for me so dealing with one mental stresser at a time made it easier to stick with what I was doing. I've always enjoyed weight lifting but unfortunately unless it's lighter weights, I have trouble sticking to it because I inevitably hurt my back and have to take a serious break from it to recover. I've never felt better than when I was doing squats and deads...until I didn't. And then I had issues walking.

    I also have never appeared skinny, or skinnyfat, or whatever. I looked in shape when it was said and done because I've always been stockier and a more muscular build, so I was just a leaner version of that. I also don't just sit on my butt at home and am usually moving around doing stuff which I think helps keep some sort of general muscle tone.

    To each their own. Whatever IT is, if your diet encompasses good nutrition and your activity gives you positive physical benefits -- and you can stick with it-- then it's a good program for you. It's the crash diets and pedal to the metal physical activity that hurt people from bad nutrition and burn out, if not outright physical harm. I think the purist attitude of some fitness junkies is more harmful than beneficial. For people with lifelong weight and diet issues, it's better to start with small changes they can stick with.

    Hey, now that's some nice New Year's shit. Congrats.
     
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    Start with buying more pleasant art for your office next time. That thing you paid for last time looked like Frankenstein sneaking into your bedroom to rape you. What was the title of said masterpiece, “Night Man”?
     
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    Lol that was a long time ago, nearly forgot.

    Lesson learned, art doesn’t necessarily transfer from one medium to another.
     
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    I wouldn't call eating healthier, exercising more and losing weight "alternative medicine". That's just being smart about your health. Anybody that mocks that is an idiot.
     
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