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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by shegirl, Feb 28, 2014.

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  1. Noland

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    I am talking about 300+ level classes. Books are useful to go along with what the professor is covering, but when every single thing you are soaking in is via type, it becomes incredibly time consuming and difficult to reasonably cover the same material that you could by attending a 3 hour lecture. Yeah, you can email your students and tell them to read chapters 1-5 to "learn" the material, but for very technical subject matter, it takes a long ass time to get through the material, let alone learn it. My school was also terribly disorganized with their online material and had about 3 ways to communicate about the class..email, the in-system email, and the message board thingy. The software was occasionally glitchy. It was chaos.
     
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    If you have an incredible memory and can just glance at something be good, great, online courses are for you. If you need someone to actually teach you the material, if you need to be able to work with the material to understand/remember it, online courses are not for you.

    My short term memory is shit, whether due to my ADHD or too many knocks to the head, either way, online courses for me bring out my worst traits as as student. I need structure and accountability to succeed, online courses provide neither.
     
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    I bartend right now and make 4.65 an hour.
     
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    Considering your wage, do you expect someone top tip 20% if you give them a bottled beer?
     
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    Remember that you are not just tipping for the service, you are paying for taking up their space and therefore money. It's the same reason that if we have a busy event, we put signs on the big tables about only being for groups of x or more. Space is money, and just because you sit there for an hour but only spend $2 doesn't mean you shouldn't tip him.
     
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    I understand that completely. Each seat has value to it, and if someone sits there drinking water they're essentially denying the restaurant the possibility to make money by not allowing someone else who does spend money to sit there. But thats not what I'm talking about. I'm strictly referring to the idea that if I buy a bottled beer or two, should I tip the bartender/waitress 20% for popping off the cap?

    I could never just sit at a bar for 4 hours and drink a beer and water.
     
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    Im pretty sure that cost is covered by the profit margin of the actual products. Tipping is more about paying for your time and labor serving the patron.
     
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    I am lucky that I work in a bar where if people do not tip we can let them know about it, I give people a chance if they don't tip on the first round, but if they stiff us again they get short poured and warm beer.
    The people from the UK get an explanation that it is considered an insult not to tip the bartender and since when I am in England I have to drive on the wrong side of the road, when they are in the US they will tip the bartender or go somewhere else.

    We have a 900 square foot room with a live band that works for tips as well, if we have a group of people who is not tipping and just taking up space we ask them to leave. Actually what the singer says is, if you are not planning on tipping the fucking band take your cheap asses across the street to the nice quiet bar.

    Drinking at a bar is a luxury, if you can afford to go to the bar you can afford to tip the bartender and you should tip 20%.
     
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    If they want a cold one, yes.
     
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    In your opinion is the tip intended for the house or server? I figure I pay for the space with the beer and the tip is for service. What Kubla said.
     
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    I have a friend like you. He always goes places and bitches about how shitty the service is. No matter how much we explain it, he still doesn't think that it is related to tipping.
     
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    I find that paying with a card makes it easier for me to tip, but also more expected if that makes sense.

    Often when we go out to dinner and have to wait for a table or for other people to show up, my wife and I will grab a drink from the bar. Move the decimal, double that, then round upwards to the dollar is usually what I do, nice and simple. Even if we just got a couple beers.
     
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    I think its easy to go buy a 12 pack and drink it by yourself or with a friend. But when you go out to a place where you are being served by someone, like a bar or a restaurant, you are engaging in a luxury no matter how nice the place is. A lot of people don't have the means to have beer on tap at home or have the variety that some nice places have. Thats what you are paying for. I think you tip the person serving you no matter what it is you are ordering or how simple the drink is. You could have always done it yourself at home...but you aren't.
     
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    That attitude is just annoying. If I want a decent amount of service I better dam well make it worth your time otherwise you can't be bothered to treat someone normally.

    I know I'm coming off like a cheapskate, but I do tip 15-20% and better if the service is good, I can afford to toss out an extra dollar or two. The thing that annoys me is that there seems to be this requirement that needs to be met otherwise you'll get ignored and treated poorly.

    I remember once I tipped a waitress 1% once, why? Because she way overcharged my card which almost resulted in an overdraft. I was in college at the time, and her $30 mistake really could've screwed me.
     
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    This right here. If you go to a restaurant, and get average service and want to respond in kind with an average tip, I get that. But, if you're buying a bottled beer at a bar, you're paying for three beers the cost of a 12 pack. Why would you not tip the bartender? "Oh, I'll over pay for the beer, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give the guy who simply pulled it out of the cooler, opened the top, restocked the coolers, and threw away my empty bottle when I was done seventy of my hard-earned cents!"
     
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    Like I said, I give people a chance but when they stiff me more than once it all changes. Trust me I run around like a fucking monkey getting people what they want fast, I remember what people drink down to things like they only want half as much ice and they want a lemon and a lime and no straw in a short glass.

    Attitudes that annoy me are people who think they don't have to tip when taking up valuable space.
     
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    If you could've gotten screwed on a credit card with a $30 mistake, that wouldn't have been her fault. Hey, I pinched pennies in college and bank account was always low. There were certainly times when I couldn't write a $30 check without it bouncing. But, on a credit card? That's on you. Maybe you meant debit card.
     
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    I did mean debit, a credit card would've been denied if there was an overdraft.
     
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    I was about to side with you until your edit. I mean was the girl maliciously over charging you? If it was a simple mistake you sound like a dick head college student more than a simple cheapskate. She didn't know your ass was next to broke. My little brother is in that phase of his college career and I saw him stiff a waitress because he didn't like the food and felt the place should have just made a better meal for him I guess. I weep for idiocy of youth.
     
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