Perfectly true. I was just trying to convey how blitheringly fucking stupid most of what Drew says about topics like sexuality and psychology are. He knows very little about areas of medicine outside of his discipline, but that sure doesn't stop him from pontificating about them. Or at least he did at the speeches/events I went to. Is he an intelligent human being overall? Very possibly...but when he's not stating the painfully obvious on Adam's radio show in the same cultured voice most doctors and high-end professionals have mastered, he's not that insightful. Like I wrote above, my biggest problem is how he glamorizes the whole treatment process with his show, and constantly disobeys standard protocol to coddle and condone celebrities for insane, violent, illegal behavior. Even when it risks the sobriety of all the other patients on the unit. Dr. Drew can rant and rave about the wrong messages kids are being sent by the media all he likes, but he's as culpable as anyone.
In his defense, can Drew really be giving out *official* medical advice on Love Line? All he has to work with is what the listeners are telling him in the minute or so they're on the air. Especially regarding drug addictions, I think most of the advice he gives is stuff that's mostly common sense, but on purpose. He has no medical history, test results, consultations, etc with any of these people which is why I think his advice is mostly elementary at best. Adam on the other hand doesn't claim to be a doctor, so he can spout off on whatever he likes and not having to adhere standard medical procedures. Also, it's not easy to become Board Certified in a specialty, so that alone requires a vast degree of knowledge and experience. As far as the rehab shows are, the parts you see on the show are a small snippet of the treatment part. Drew has said that a lot of the treatment goes on off camera within typical and confidential standards
As I wrote above, my issue is with what Drew said during private speeches and events that I attended. I've never listened to Loveline. That's wrong. If it were true, there wouldn't be any shitty doctors in US hospitals, when believe me, there are plenty of them. Much like advanced degrees, being Board Certified is not a magical object that bestows intelligence and humility onto its subject. What I see is enough. I see addicts smuggling in drugs, using them on the unit, attacking medical and production staff, openly flaunting all the rules, and interfering in the sobriety of their fellow patients. Drew's reaction? He condones and rationalizes it, even when the other medical professionals all tell him the person has to be kicked out. Is it any wonder that a former patient of his, who Drew raved about "doing so well after the show", Mike Starr, died of a drug overdose a few months later?
What kind of stuff did he say that had such a negative impact on your opinion? This isnt a set up to argue with your analysis, Im just curious as I havent seen him outside of the media. Oh cmon, Ill give you that not everyone with a degree is good at their field of study or particularly intelligent, but board certification isnt something every doctor, or even many doctors, receive. Im sure that there are many doctors who arent certified that are exceptional and probably some board certified physicians who arent, but anyone looking for a physician will most likely go with a board certified one over one who isnt. Its that much more knowledge, and that much more education, which more than likely makes you that much more proficient. Rehab rates are notoriously low already. The statistic is somewhere around 4 out of every 10 rehab patients end up being successful. Thats not necessarily a reflection of Celebrity Rehab, but a reflection on the philosophy of rehabilitation. Mike Starr didnt die under the the care of the facility, he died because he fell into that majority statistic. Now granted, Ive been told by a close friend who had been through an actual drug treatment facility for cocaine that a lot of what is going on is most likely glamourized for entertainment purposes, but the group and individual meetings as well as the activities they engage are consistent with what many facilities do for their programs.
I left midway through, but he was talking about various issues in psychology and sexuality. For instance, he went into a great deal of depth about a "study" where straight guys were shown gay porn, and how they responded with revulsion at it. He went on and on about this, as if it were some major discovery, and the whole time, I wondered what the hell the point or conclusion was. I never really gave one. He also sort of went into this quasi-psychology rant, loosely similar to what you heard on Ace's last show, where he made a lot of assumptions about people's thoughts and beliefs, which might well be true for his patients, but are a very poor approximation of the mindset that much of the audience had, for instance. Think about it this way; have you ever received an "A" in a class in school where you didn't understand the subject matter at all? Yes? Then why do you think passing a certain set of requirements has anything to do with a doctor's knowledge and experience? It doesn't; it's simply there to weed out certain unqualified candidates. However, the number of intelligent doctors is much lower than the number that are board certified. That wasn't my issue at all. My issue was that Dr. Drew raved about how great Mike Starr was doing, and about a month later, the guy drops dead. Incidentally, Mike Starr was one of the celebrities Drew enabled, coddled, and allowed to break rules the most on the show. Again, this has nothing to do with my criticism. And if you want to talk about other treatments facilities, my views about Dr. Drew's coddling and enabling are the same ones the directors/workers of these centers have expressed;
On to our next KIMaster argument. Ive always found it curious that the Aceman is SO convinced that Robert Deniro is actually a dimwit that just made it huge because he is a beast at acting. I mean it is a solid theory about celebrities but he has never, to my knowledge, backed it up with anything but his own speculation on Bobby D. If he'd had interviewed him or know people that work directly with him it would lend it more credibility. The dude rarely does any interviews and outside of the current Trump bullcrap he rarely speaks out so publicly (that isn't a produced commercial or professional message).
He is from New Jersey though. In my estimation its a pretty good barometer. They also were talking about the Fitzdog podcast during this taping, and if you're a big Aceman fan you should give it a listen because it was pretty goddamn good. They taped it while Carolla was giving Greg a ride home after the show.
Wasn't Ace basically saying that we automatically assume famous people or people that are good at one thing are smarter than the average person. I don't think he thinks DeNiro is an idiot, just that we shouldn't put them up on that wisdom pedestal. Also, co-signed on that drinking game. This is my first year listening to the ACE Podcast, actually I started in October during a shitty shitty internship. These last 2-3 weeks have been a fucking talent drought with guests for the most part. Does this happen alot? Is it just a cycle? Or is there nothing exciting going on right now in the world? Good thing is that I love Rosen and bald Brian. Its fun how they can just shit around and take 3 calls to make 90 minutes fly by. I'm a huge fan of ranting, any form of angry ranting about stupid people so I never get bored with the podcast. But am I retarded or did they just abandon the Tournament of Rosen? Did she pick a final guy and was there a date? I swear to god they got to the final 4 with Lisa Lampanelli and haven't said shit about it since.
The last episode with Larry Miller and David Koechner he really made it sound like he actually thought Deniro truly was an idiot. As for the guest thing, it's half cyclical half podcast's weakness as a medium to draw big guest. Ive noticed most podcast seem to just trade around B-C list guest as the celebrity has something to plug. Adam better than anyone else can get great interviews out of most if not all guest.
I for one can't wait for Adams next audio book that he announced. I think he said it was called "Pirate Ship" and will be just as long as the previous one. The first one was fantastic and made for a great long car ride. Im glad he's self producing the whole thing. Can't wait.
Terrific podcast with Phil Rosenthal. Never watched or cared about "Everybody Loves Raymond", but the guy was funny, incisive, and has forgotten more about how to successfully deal with Hollywood people than Ace will (sadly) ever know.
Ace's approach to the Hollywood politics seems abrasive and counterproductive (but makes for good rants). Rosenthal seems very smart and definitely knows how to play the game to his advantage. Ace constantly railing against the industry cant be helping him...
Listening to him talk about his next audio-book, which he is releasing independently, kind of solidified this. Ace said that a lot of people were asking him, so he would explain the situation, and basically ran down everything he'd said before (he offered them half, they came back with shitty offers, he stuck to his guns, and they ended up breaking off the deal over whether or not they'd pay fully for his two guys to produce it). In the end, he said he was going to just do it on his own with his own material, but what was interesting was when he said he promised his agent he wouldn't call them idiots and morons this time. I think the book publishers heard his rant and decided to actively work against him, but ultimately it'll work out to his advantage, as now he'll get 100% of the profits from the next audio-book.
The funny thing is that Rosenthal, despite being a nice guy, ultimately had to compromise far less, and got to do things his way far more than Adam did on his failed pilot. That story about casting Raymond's wife was awesome. The way Rosenthal explained why the blonde actress wasn't right to Les Moonves allowed the executive to save face; he simultaneously put over Les's supposed genius, but also made his own position clear. Granted, all this is incredibly basic shit, which anyone who works in any type of business environment should have known and mastered. Unfortunately, Carolla hasn't, which is a fucking shame, because the dude is ridiculously talented. Ranting for a good 90 plus minutes every weekday without becoming stale or boring is an extraordinarily hard task (many comedians I've listened to irritate the shit out of me after two episodes), and he freaking carried an otherwise mediocre, crappy, generic comedy in "The Hammer" to the point where it was very much entertaining.
Burning bridges in style (particularly SAG on this one), The Breitbart 1-on-1 was hilarious. He rehashed a few old rants, but the one about the cop holding a radar gun while ignoring the illegal immigrant flower peddlers across the street had particular vigor.
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Fuck was that freaky. Still proved to be a really good interview/discussion. Those Nascar chicks on the other hand? The crew basically decided after the initial introductions to just bring up their own topics and include the girls very sparsely as they seemed dumb as rocks. I think the Albert Brooks episode was another case study on how any interview can turn soar at any moment. The dude would kill acemans flow and then when Ace did it back later the dude started pouting. Fucking Hollywood...
Surprisingly enjoyed the Topher Grace episode. I went into it thinking he was going to be monotone and boring, but he was actually pretty interesting. Any thoughts?