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Discussion in 'Pop Culture Board' started by Nettdata, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Kubla Kahn

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    Yeah that's about as vague as you can get. I had an inkling, this is wild speculation after the fact, in the past few months that she didn't seem to enjoy the general ribbing she'd get on the show or at least not go along with it like she used to.
     
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    Im not surprised. Shes a bit of a snob and I would imagine her personal politics not meshing with Adams also contributed to it. Hes right, shes not a great side-kick. Theres very long lulls in conversations, especially with guests, where she said absolutely nothing.

    Granted it sounds like Carolla is a complete nightmare to work for, so she probably deserves some benefit of the doubt. But her exit speaks volumes. No send off show like Teresa Strasser got, just gone in 2015. Adam is a pretty good judge of character, so I wonder what happened. He mentions the term "side-kick" a bunch of times, that leads to believe that she may have been demanding more money and Adam didnt think she deserved it.

    I didnt listen as much to the show in November or December, but I remember her talking about her dog dying, and was there something with fertility issues and not being able to conceive? I cant remember.
     
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    Both. Her dog got into a fight with another dog while she was on vacation and they had to put it down. She also had mentioned her trying to get pregnant and starting the process of fertility treatment, she didn't seem very open about it as much as Adam would detail his experience. Though politically they differed greatly she really didn't make it a sticking point on the show too much, maybe she really resented it or it was worse behind the scenes. When Donny had been fired it didn't come as a shock because they argued all the time on air and I just didn't get any sort of rift between him and Alison like that.

    Im sure she'll do fine. Teresa went on to do that day time Hollywood gossip show while probably not as comedically prestigious it probably pays much better. Like I said to Parker in PM it is out of the blue but Im not going to lose sleep over it. I missed Teresa until Alison got into the swing of things. It'll take a little while to get someone new into the flow and become part of the shows bits and humor. Until then it'll just be fun to speculate about the juicy behind the scenes gossip.
     
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    Yeah it is. I bet that it went something like this...

    Her: "Hey 2015 is coming up, Im your co-host and I have my own podcast, I want a % of profits, not a salary"

    Him: "You're not the co-host, you're the sidekick. And if you want more money, then you need to step it up. But a % of profit is out of the question."

    Her: "I want more money"

    Him: "Its not working out on this show. You can keep your podcast on the network, but Im taking you off the main show."

    Her: "Im leaving and taking my show with me."

    Him: "Okay."

    His departure message seemed pretty salty and not at all amicable.
     
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    I agree his short send off message was not amicable or that friendly for a long time coworker. I could see it being a money thing, at least something that could get you an unceremonious boot from the ACS. On one hand it might pay more than the average radio gig would in the same position, which in this day and age is next to nothing. On the other hand I could see Adam paying a pittance to his workers since he stresses constantly how people should prove themselves for working for next to nothing for years until they are a proven commodity.

    I don't think she had much room to stand on if she did from what she did on the show alone. I feel Bald Bryan interjects more funny content into conversations than she does. She's just very affable and good natured and was worked into the show's bits well. I don't know if she could have taken on a bigger role on the show. I'm surprised she hasn't written a book or tried something more than her other podcast. It would seem branching out while using the popularity of the show to help you along is the only real way to get ahead there. Fuck even Bald Bryan wrote a book.
     
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    As I repped to Kubla, it's interesting. Before when people harassed Allison, I got defensive for her. I liked her when she actually did things. The "News Girl" is kind of a bullshit job, because its not a segment where she can actually talk. She says a News Story, and Adam jumps in immediately. Bald Bryan at least got the games where he could excel and Baldywood. Nothing Allison did lasted. "What to Expect If I Was Expecting" was funny to me, but I doubt the larger ACE audience. "Just Me or Everyone" I thought was good, but Adam would go off on a tangent immediately.

    So I can see how she didn't mesh, but at the same time, I think they did get along. Adam would have frequent rants where he'd start off with "Allison, tell me if you've felt this way like I have..." or "Allison, I know you've felt this way or had this thought about..."

    At the same time, I'm surprised at how I really don't think I'm going to miss her. Especially when it came to good guests. She never jumped in with any question I thought was good or really engaged. During the live shows, she ghosted most of the time, and he seems to be doing more and more every year. I doubt it was a heated/hostile kick out, but I really can't wait to hear the explanation.
     
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    I swear some live shows they say Bald Bryan is there. He supposedly plays a drop at the beginning of the live show. Then you hear nothing, not even a drop, for the rest of the show. These were shows where the trivia games were skipped. They constantly skip Baldywood too but like I said before I think he's pretty good at interjecting the funny. You can tell he and Adam get along good for the most part. He's worked for Loveline, Adam's TV show, Adams original Radio show, and the podcast.


    I'd love to see a live show they never travel very far for Cali anymore. I saw Jo Koy a few months ago and he was great live. He kept the Bung Lu Su stuff to a minimum (the actual character, he did a ton of stereotypical asian voice stuff). Well worth the price of admittance.
     
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    I wonder how much of it is because of the new hubby, especially with her talking about the DAG sex-dream, and the special "sex dream song", and all sorts of stuff... she hesitantly brought up his unease with them talking about that kind of personal stuff on the air.

    Combine that with the death of her dog, which REALLY unsettled her, her fertility issues, and the fact that I could totally see her asking for more cash, and I could see it coming to an end.

    Say what you will about Adam, but I think he comes off as consistent and predictable. Sure, it's his way or the highway, but I have no problem with that... after all, it IS his pirate ship. He gets to call the shots.

    He's also very clear about who the boss is. Listen to his rants about the self-entitlement in Hollywood (the whole "why should I have to do that" of the juniors), and you know right off the bat that he expects to be respected for the hard work he's put in. He's the boss, period. He sounds like he respects people as people, but has a very finely developed sense of Org Chart, with him firmly at the titular head.

    I can imagine Allison thinking she's more than she really is, and Adam finding it genuinely amusing, and then calling it a day.


    Haven't heard the new episode yet, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see if this unfolds at all.

    Mind you, it's not like we've heard much at all about Donny since he left, and I doubt Adam will talk too much about this, because I honestly think he doesn't give a shit. She needed him, he didn't need her, which makes her fairly easy to replace.

    If anything, it'll be fun to see if he does a new contest for the position, now that it's proven itself to be a solid gig with a huge future.
     
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    Gina Grad has huge....... guns. She has my vote.

    I'd be nice to get a good comedienne on the show as a female sidekick. Be hard to balance a regular show biz career outside of doing this show five days a week plus live shows. Think that's why both Alison and Teresa were basic media types (pop media, writing, tv panels, radio spots) and not stand ups or comedic actresses.
     
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    That's part of the problem, the shows are becoming stagnate. The same shitty guests (Jo Koy is horrible), the same rants, and the same stories. I love a good angry rant, but it can't be all negativity all the time.

    I didn't mind Alison Rosen, I thought she brought different perspective, but shes kind of phoning it in.
     
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    Just saw this somewhere on the internets.

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    I haven't listened to the show in a while, mainly because I've had phone issues lately.
    I will say that I didn't mind Alison, but am looking forward to a new girl with better comedic chops. Who do I have in mind? I don't have a fucking clue.

    Can I ask a stupid question: Why does it have to be a Lady? What is the appeal to automatically slot a girl in the sidekick role?
    I may be retarded (most likely) but if there isn't someone who is a girl that fits the role, why not pick the right person instead of the wrong woman?

    The only thing that I can think of is because of the same reason we liking having girls on this board,,,, that it maybe brings a different perspective to the show. And its doesn't devolve in to a dingaling festival.
     
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    So I jumped ahead and listened to the podcast where he says Allison is gone. I don't think he sounds butthurt about it, and he does end with the whole "I think she'd be better as a lead" and that's it. Now she's going to say something eventually, but "they went in another direction."

    Well the guy is who he is, the format is what it is. He needs a ton of new shit to rant about and new stories. If shit isn't going wrong in his life he has nothing.

    Also, Jo Joy was fucking hilarious with his characters the first two rounds. Those first two Bung and Brown Sugar bits are fucking classics. Then Adam had him on once a week or at least twice a month and it got bad. It was definitely better than Larry and the Road Trip shit (not that I think it was something Larry thought up).

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    I think it does have to be a chick. It's not just him and Bryan, you got Dawson, Gary and all the other guys that sometime pop in. The guests are 60-70% male ,Plus Adam likes to talk about everything from national news to his wife where I think a female perspective gives him more to talk about. Also, when he says shit about women, he can say "If I was really sexist, would I keep always having a female on my show?"
     
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    Pretty shady to fire someone via email like that, if its true. Social media is on her side at the moment, so she'll play up the confused victim angle as much as she can. Who knows what else went on? Maybe shes a huge bitch behind the scenes.

    Theres also some weird tweets coming from Adam's wife about this. Maybe there was some jealously thing going on. Dont listen to her podcast, shes surprisingly dumb.
     
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    Yeah, this shit is just fishy. People's rage is entertaining, as it goes from angry to "please bring her back." If Allison doesn't know what's up, and it's all on Adam's side. We're not going to hear shit unless he gets into a drunken rant somehow.
     
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    Yeah she played it perfectly leaving it all on him. Rationalizing it further that she wasn't a perfect fit doesn't seem like it will fly with social media that's on her side. She worked well enough to make it 4 years, if she wasn't pulling her weight side kick wise Adam didn't articulate it very well the other day. If he spills the beans on some insider stuff he stands the risk of coming off as petty or vindictive since she's never showed hints of anything and he's shown time and again he can be a humongous asshole to his staff. So my guess is we never hear about it again like with Donny. Done moving on. Or there will be enough social media/media traction he has to say something, shit I don't know. Ive enjoyed the past two episodes. It's still the top of my daily playlist.

    The Carolla boards are hilariously bipolar on just about every aspect of the situation. Fuck Adam he's an asshole, the show is dead without her. She's sucked since day one fuck her, he needs to ditch Bald Bryan too shit has been terrible since he stopped doing one on ones and went back to a radio format in 2010!
     
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    I cant tell whats worse, the DimeForSale boards or the Adam Carolla subreddit. Its a lot of complaining for a ton of media and entertainment people dont have to pay for.

    Adam explained it more on the most recent (today's podcast). David Wild is a really good interviewer so he basically came in as a fan advocate and asked all the questions that should have been asked. Adam basically broke it down that he screwed up firing her and didnt do a great job at it, but that it wasnt personal and he just wanted to move on creatively. Which I think is a good move. Shes great on her own podcast, but just not great alongside him.

    Nett brought up a good point that she thinks shes more than she is. Not to long ago she mentioned (cant remember if ACS or her podcast) that she wasnt happy with her lot in life, particularly that at 39 she was a sidekick on a podcast. I dont think that really helped her case either.

    And yea, agree with Parker that you need a woman on that show. With just dudes that all worship at Adams alter, you need a chick with perspective.
     
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    And huge titties.




    Also Adam handled it well on todays show. He articulated it a bit better why she hadn't really broken out in her role and he wanted to move on. He admitted he didn't handle the announcement right and David Wild put it to him for the fans. That's that.
     
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    Those Chosen folk look out for one another. Plus David Wild and Allison seemed to get along really well. Glad to hear David pushed him more on it. I never care for the music they're talking about, but I like how David Wild talks about the music and artists when he's on.
     
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    Just jumped up and listened to the beginning of this podcast with David Wild. I really think Adam just fucked up and didn't think about anything. I think his explanation was solid and didn't seem like he was hiding something. Allison Rosen did have a pretty serious stance on not being in awkward conversations, so if he really emailed her to fire her based on that then so be it.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.