I agree. I don't understand the hate towards him in this topic; with all the wildly overrated, mediocre stand-ups that I have seen pimped on various parts of this board, Katt is the guy people single out as being undeserving? He's nothing special or great, but Katt is a solid professional with generally good delivery and material. Edit- Louis CK isn't a bad comparison, either; I think CK is a little better, but their styles of humor are similar.
If you think Kat Williams is as good as this, do you also put McDonald's and Five Guys in the same category?
They're both crappy fast food that isn't good for you, so yeah? (And Five Guys is way worse than something like Carl's Jr or Tops or even In N' Out, too) Like I said, CK is better, but if you find the ginger funny, you'll probably like some of Katt's material, too. I'm not defending him as a great comic or anything, but he's definitely not shit, either.
Louie CK is a better comedian. They're still comparable. Part of the reason that Louie CK resonates so strongly with somewhat shlubby white guys is because he speaks so adroitly to their experience; he delivers his personal experience with verve, wit and finely honed timing. Katt Williams does largely the same thing. Look, if you didn't grow up black, or around a lot of black people, it might not speak to you. That's cool; feel free not to watch it. But take it from me: I watch a whole lot of comedy, and know a whole lot of black people, and Katt Williams is very good at what he does. If we're playing the youtube bit game, I think this is an objectively well-written bit:
Could someone please explain to me how my dog loses her collar so frequently*? I live in the country and she runs like it's her job so I have no clue where it could be. The only reason I'm not pissed is that even with a custom riveted tag and reflective strip, her collar is less than $10. *Before anyone says it, it fit perfectly - it's possible for it to come off without unbuckling it but not easily. Honestly I've never watched Katt Williams but Louis CK is hilarious to me.
Perhaps not. But it's a well-observed, well-delivered take on something unversal to the experience of his audience. Which is what Louie CK does. Do I think he's a great joke-writer? No. He's not Jeselnik, Kaplan, Fatel, Nanjiani, Kinane or any one of probably two dozen non-famous comedians who I think are better writers. But his delivery and his tone are close to pitch-perfect, and as somebody who has done a bit of comedy, I respect that. A lot. I think this bit is basically perfectly written, btw:
I think you mean that's what Dane Cook does. Louis CK is an upper echelon comedian and his material is way more challenging than simply relating to the experience of the audience.
I look at Kat Williams the same way as Dane Cook: lots of movement, loud noises, and sub-par originality. Oh, did I mention no laughs whatsoever? Wow, he's all over the stage! That must mean he's funny! Fuck the fact he's using material that was covered a quarter century ago, he's making weird noises and waving his arms around! They're crap. Humour for the lowest common denominator like Gallager and the other asshole gimmick comedians before them. John Mulaney is the only American comedian I have been recommended and liked in the last year. He has a classic delivery, but is plain flat-out funny because he talks about relatable things.
Being uncreative means it's not well-observed. Or, if it was well-observed, it was observed by someone else. It's not an interesting observation. And, it's not delivered well either. It's juvenile slapstick.
All fast food is crap, but I can't imagine a part of the country where Five Guys is the absolute best you can find. I looked him up, and he's a decent, solid pro who also relies on gimmicks...which is why I'm more confused you're disparaging Katt Williams. Just compare (random videos of both) with You really think the first is that much better than the second?
To be fair I think he was saying that pretty much anywhere you go you can find a burger better than five guys for an extra dollar or two at any half way decent sit down restaurant, not that it was bad compared to other fast food burgers. Not that I have a horse in this race, since I don't eat fast food burgers because quite frankly I'm better than all of you.
I'm going to go ahead and answer for KIMaster since he is probably busy meeting with foreign diplomats trying to solve world peace or something so complex that your puny little brains can't handle.