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Breaking Bad: Season 5

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Juice, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. thatdamncuban

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    to throw out an idea, maybe its possible Walt actually reverses his downfall in order to seek some form of redemption, and is the one who is the downfall of the German conglomerate. Kind of a left field idea, but If I've learned anything from this show, it is to expect the unexpected.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if it ends with Grey Matter having an experiment go awry and a satellite falling on Walt's head in the middle of a "ITS ABOUT THE SCIENCE" speech at this point.

    Andy Greenwald's take on the poison theme I mentioned earlier can be better outlined here and is awesome.
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/55774/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-6-buyout" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood ... e-6-buyout</a>
     
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    Except the Sopranos didn't do that. If you were paying any attention at all it's pretty easy to see what happened there.

    Viewers just didn't like what they didn't see, Tony's brains all over the Holsten's table.
     
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    But you like don't know that maaaaayn. The hints in earlier episodes could have just been misdirection.
     
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    Spoiler Al... ah fuck it. Who gives a fuck any more? Can we stop with spoiler alerts on forums? If you don't wanna know, don't read the GODDAMNED forum named for the show you don't want to know about. Not our fucking responsibility, YOURS!!!

    Fuck OFF...

    I may be incensed about this topic...
     
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    That was probably the best cold opening of the show so far.
     
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    Damn, didn't expect that.
     
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    I kind of saw it coming. His story was basically wrapped up and it was really the only way to end him. For a minute I thought Walt wasn't going to find him and he was the one Walt is going to wage war with in the flash forward. But overall he was a great character.

    I'm guessing Walter Jr. is gonna get capped at some point too, not by Walt but just in general.
     
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    Shit I thought Walt was just going to cap him in the park as soon as he heard the dea was coming. Shut the Fuck up and let me die in peace, the croaked like Michael Corleone. Beautiful shot by the water.

    Next move for Walt? Is Todd an idiot savant? Is Jessie going to go after Walt if he suspects what happened to Mike? Love this show.
     
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    Mike was a great character. Hank is fucking killing it. I'm loving every goddamn scene he is in. Hate to see Mike go like that but, there is definitely a live by the sword, die by the sword mentality that all this shit goes by. I can't deliver any real commentary as I'm currently freaking out about what I just saw. My brain can't process it yet.
     
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    Yeah it makes sense, but I still didn’t want to see him die. Couldn’t think of a more beautiful place for it to happen though.
     
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    I think Walt is going to get away with it. Think about it. Mike was going to flee the country with his "go bag" that had money and passports and shit. Assuming Walt disposing of everything properly, plus the fact that Mike said he'd never see Jesse again even if they were both getting out of the business, there's absolutely no reason for Jesse to assume anything went wrong with the drop-ff.

    I think it'll be something else that nails Walt, something more personal to Jesse.
     
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    I saw this somewhere else, but it's fucking incredible. The evolution of Walter White. Here's him with a gun pointed at his head in all five seasons so far:

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    Wow that is incredible. I can't even remember who the machine gun guy in fatigues was. Tuko's crew?

    That pic highlights the one thing that really bothers me about how far they've taken everyone else's character development, Skylar and Hank especially. How was it that all this shit happened in only one year?!
     
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    That's Tuco in some kind of cabana wear.

    Not sure I follow. The pic of Walt's "I'm ok with a gun to my head" progression makes you think they've taken Skylar and Hank's character development too far?

    Knew something awful was gonna happen that episode. Went into it saying to my roommate that, knowing this show, this could have been the episode where Hank finds out it's Walt, and the last eight episodes were gonna be a Walt/his new distribution crew going against the DEA. Or something.

    Instead, Walt killed my favourite character, for no reason, like a lunatic who's losing it.

    Couple questions: what was Hank seeing, or about to see in those pics? Likewise, what were the pics on the easel in Hank's office that Walt saw?

    Whenever I think there's a flaw, I'm usually wrong, but the whole thing with the lawyer...Hank said they were gonna use Mike's surveillance team on the lawyer, but since when does "surveillance" equal sneak in on the (I assume) confidential transpirings of a lawyer in a safety deposit box vault? Seemed they were a lot more subtle with Mike, yet they just followed this guy straight in and said hi. And they knew of this lawyer once they knew of the nine guys -- why the delay in seeing what he's up to?

    Also, I know he'll get out of it somehow, but holy shit is Walt screwed.
     
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    Well surveillance was of the lawyer going into the bank and who he talked to in the bank all the time. There was a logical leap, they just didn't spell it out. They followed the lawyer going to the bank with a suitcase on a routine basis and what times he was going. Then when they decided to jump they just showed up, not sure if it is confidential, I believe its just supposed to be safe and secure. The door just didn't happen to close and lock all the way, they just happened to be standing there. Get it?

    Hank is getting something, something is clicking in his mind about Mike and what not. Like Mike can't be doing all the work and he's realizing there are other people. Who know. Or maybe he's thinking there is a rat because Mike always looks so fucking calm and collected.
     
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    I'll have to re-watch, but that timeline seems a bit quick, doesn't it? Maybe I'm not understanding how surveillance works, but it seems like they went from "let's switch the team from Mike to the lawyer" to "let's watch his banking habits" in a day or two at most. I always thought surveillance meant somewhat secretive, or at least an attempt at secrecy, like they were with Mike, not following a guy within talking distance into a bank, badges bare. Again, very likely I just don't know what a surveillance team really does/is allowed to do, but I took it as a "we're sure you're up to something, but we don't have the evidence, so we're gonna slyly follow you to see if you screw up and give us evidence" (like they were doing with Mike). A lawyer going to a bank on a regular basis hardly seems like enough.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken one of the pictures was of Mike meeting with Lydia at the diner. At least it looked like Mike and the back of a woman's head. This seems like a logical tie in with Walt's quote at the end of the episode about lydia having the names.
     
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    Re-watch the episode. They got enough from the lawyer to give it up. The lawyer going to the bank everyday for a week is enough. Who goes to the bank every day with a suitcase? Pretty sure the episodes goes over the course of a week, I don't think its just in two days or something. The marked the lawyer as suspicious being the representation for all those shady guys that won't talk even after getting money taken away. Obviously they're getting money, and now they have their lawyer going to the bank every day. It is not a big of a jump.

    And Walt knew about Lydia having the names because they talked about it when they pulled her in before the train heist. It was one of the reasons Mike argued for killing her, because 1) the GPS 2) She put a hit on him and his 9 men. That's how Walt knew Lydia knew the names. Those pictures in the office were those of the bank. If they knew Mike and Lydia had a connection, Hank would have made a bigger deal of it by now.

    I hate to be a TV watching dick, but do you guys watch this show while on the phone with your girlfriend and checking facebook? Lots of questions about shit that was plainly laid out in the episode. Just sayin'
     
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    This is what happens when I write posts from my phone at work. Let me elaborate.

    I think it is a stretch to ask the audience to believe that all of this mayhem has happened in only a year. I'm unsure if I'm willing to believe Walt could devolve into insanity that quickly, and the picture just exemplifies the extreme change in personality he has undergone - from pissing his pants in his tighty whities to having the wherewithal to calmly de-bug a DEA office, let alone killing all the people he has in the interim.

    Regarding Hank and Skylar: First, Hank has gone from meat head street agent, through post traumatic stress disorder, to partially paralyzed, to reluctant depressed administrator. Too many arcs of change for one year. Skylar went from overly doting mother, to adulterer, money launderer, enforcer, emotional prisoner, to hellacious witch. Again, too many variants of change for one year. Also, Holly looks like a 9 month old baby which doesn't fit with the timeline.

    At any rate, this is just my feel, and it takes me out of the show every once and awhile. I might be willing to accept Walt's complete descent based on how well we know his underlying evil genius nature, but too many of the supporting cast have changed too much at their core for me to accept it all at face value. Oh yeah, and Walt indirectly caused two planes to collide by letting Jessie's girl die. Too much for a year. That means every week in these people's lives is uninterrupted mayhem. No steady state. It's a bit too much.

    On another note, regarding the picture, and seeing Walt with hair, I'm struck by how the tone of the show has changed too. Since the beginning of the conflict with Gus, and Gail's murder, this show has been overwhelmingly depressing, with very little humor. Remember how bad-ass we thought Walt was when he blew up Tuco's office? Remember how goofy/funny he was bumbling with Jessie around the camper? How sickeningly funny it was to watch him smoke pot while wrestling with the obligation to kill the dealer in the basement? The unbelievable lies he came up with - fugue state? Seriously? That was hilarious, and while I find the timeline to be unbelievable, the overall arc of the show is mind bogglingly complex and intense. I love it.