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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Currer Bell

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    Haha, what a strange map. it looks like the only hispanic country they hate is Spain. Even Portugal gets a pass. I can't see it very well, but is that Switzerland, the gray blob in western Europe? Not even ISIS is going to fuck with their neutrality I guess?
     
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    I just read up a bit more on HB 757 in Georgia. Yikes.

    That has far reaching repercussions I didn't realize at first. Apparently it would make being fired for being LBGT completely legal along with refusing services such as meals/shelter for the homeless. Yeah, that is definitely going way over the line.

    Initial research made the bill sound nowhere near that all encompassing. Not to mention its language makes sure that it supersedes all local laws/ordinances to the contrary. It is a horrible bill.
     
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    So far I've seen estimates of nearly 2 billion in revenue for the state that will be lost if it becomes law. Between Disney/Marvel films leaving and the NFL making it pretty clear Atlanta won't host a Super Bowl if that bill is in place, they're playing with serious economic fire. For a group of politicians who claim to be so business minded, it is staggering watching Republicans destroy their own state economies because of some perverse need to punish the LGBT community for daring to exist and need jobs and services. I thought this discrimination shit got resolved fucking decades ago.

    Indiana is estimated to have lost around $500 million, maybe more, since it's bullshit law was passed, and that is after they went back and tried to scale back the clearly discriminatory intent of the law. But Indiana doesn't have a thriving film industry that is threatening to leave. Seriously watch and see how many movies and shows have "film Georgia" at the end, and you can see why people were starting to refer to Atlanta as the "Hollywood of East." Risking all that seems mind bogglingly stupid.
     
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    Never mind the convention circuit. They have a HUGE convention centre that I think would dry up with all sorts of other companies and industries following the lead of the big corporations.
     
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35893123

    Glasgow mosque leader praises extremist killer

    This isn't some guy hiding in the back room somewhere with some friends, this is their local, public, leader, saying this shit publicly.
    When stuff like this happens, it's really, REALLY hard to think that it's not a problem with the religion itself.

    I'm having a hard time drawing a Christian similarity from modern times... did any cleric condone the actions of Abortion Clinic killers, or Timmothy McVeigh?
     
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    Tacit support for abortion clinic bombings is probably as close as you'll get in the Western mainstream. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance on both sides here: the liberals don't want to admit that cultural relativism is weak willed nonsense and that aspects of culture can be objectively bad, and the conservatives don't want to admit that the difference between the 'Christian' West and the Islamic World is that the secularists beat Christianity into the dust over the last 300 years and that there are no true believers left in the West.
     
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    This is the most telling line from the article:

    "The support for Qadri expressed in the UK by some Muslims from a group within Islam that is generally regarded as moderate was unexpected."

    From most of my readings it appears that "Moderate" Muslims are not the ones that actually blow themselves up or attempt to become martyrs. They are, however, in full support of those that do in the war against Infidels (Anyone who is not them.)

    They are moderate in actions, but not in belief.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    I don't completely disagree, but an important difference is a lot of the crazy homicidal shit Christians did doesn't have much of anything to do with being a Christian. The slave trade was justified through religion, but that's not in the new testament. Neither is the obsession with gays, killing jews, burning witches and so on. The old testament is fucking nuts, but one of the earliest decisions the church made was that you don't have to follow the old practices to become a Christian. That's a big part of why so many Jewish traditions never became so common in Christianity. Of course there's a big difference between don't have to, and will, especially when it's still considered the word of God.

    I'm not trying to say Christianity is all kittens, or that Christians weren't just as bad throughout most of history, but I'm coming back to this because all of this violence is a plausible explanation of Mohammad's message, it's not a plausible explanation of the message from Jesus. People tend to use religion as they see fit, as evidenced by so much of Christian history, but it's still a very relevant distinction.
     
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    Soon in your feeds will probably circulate an utterly horrific video of a British Chav/thug bastard throwing a bulldog down a flight of stairs and beating it mercilessly while it gives no resistance.

    This is a warning and a favour: You guys love dogs. DONT WATCH THE FOOTAGE. Read about it maybe, but It's hard to upset me and this was the most upsetting display of animal cruelty I may have ever seen. Trust in the fact that it's completely awful and you'll hate yourself for watching it.

    I'm NOT going to link it.
     
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    Crown, you know that we're all going to look it up now.
     
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    This must be one of his followers:

    "A popular shopkeeper who wished Christians a happy Easter on Facebook was stabbed to death in what police in Scotland say was a “religiously prejudiced” attack carried out by a fellow Muslim, it was reported Saturday."

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/0...aster-message-to-christians.html?intcmp=hpbt3
     
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    I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems to fall in line with everything I've read about Bernie's tax plan:

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016

    According to it, I'd "Only" be paying an extra $4K a year because I'm so filthy rich living with roommates and driving a 17 year old truck. So Bernie can give free shit to other people while cutting our military spending.

    "But it only hits the rich"....I ran it for making $13K a year, unmarried, no children...hardly rich. They only have to pay an extra $960. So much for buying name brand ramen for those folks. Or even eating every day.

    Is this an accurate representation of what Bernie's plan is? As I said, it pretty much does reflect what I've previously read, but if someone can provide another source of information I'd love to see it.
     
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    You're lucky. I'd "only" be paying $14.2k more. Yeah I think if I had to give that money away, I could do a lot more good donating it myself to local charities than he could handing it out to whomever.

    Sanders can go fuck himself.
     
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    That's a poor article because it only talks about changes in taxes but doesn't talk about how those changes would affect government services. Reading the links to the tax plans Bernie's plan would institute a single-payer healthcare system. If that meant I no longer needed to pay for health insurance the impact of a larger tax burden is lessened because my income has increased. I'd prefer to see a more comprehensive calculator that accounted for both tax changes and service changes in order to get a better sense of which plan was best.
     
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    There's also the fact that the only candidate on either side who could get their tax plan passed is Hillary, solely because her plan is "change nothing."
     
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    Sanders swept tonight from the looks of it and by a BIG margin. It seems that not as much of appeal for him--but also a simmering dislike for Clinton --- is what may be causing this surge. The mistrust for her seems to grow every day. Sander's "grass roots" approach to campaigning really pays off well in this day and age too, especially when you stack it against Clinton's "Yawn Just Give Me The Keys To The White House Already".
     
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    Perhaps you can outline some of the other benefits I would get from the Government besides single-payer health care (I don't want) and free college (I don't need)? Sorry but I can't swallow paying almost $27k more a year in taxes for inferior healthcare, a service that I already pay about $7-8k a year for through insurance premiums and deductibles.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Sanders going to go full-Scandinvia on us? Income tax increases and a high VAT? 18 or 20%? How will all of these additional taxes help a sputtering economy, create prosperity and put people to work?
     
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    Yeah, as much as I'm for a single payer healthcare system, having to pay an extra $8,000 a year in taxes is only going to hurt me. At my income level I don't think that any improvement in public services will make that extra tax burden a positive for me.
     
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    Exactly. We'd be paying $23,000 MORE in fucking taxes. Way to continue to gut the middle class Bernie.