He said put surveillance on a very low percentage of Mosques if/when there are concerns of a link to terrorism. That is not all Muslims. The ban for Muslims entering is temporary and in response to the attacks in Europe. I don't really agree with him, but this Hitler talk is really fucking stupid. Grow up already people.
Interestingly enough there are some very valid correlations that can be made between Trump and Hitler, so it's not really "fucking stupid". Mind you, bullshit extremist points about a subject full of nuance is "fucking stupid".
Um....why are we discussing Trump in the serious thread? Request: can we have a trump discussion? Trumps positions seem to mirror authoritarian leaders, like Hitler. He promises to punish, more or less, the governments, organizations and people that he blames for Americas problems. I think the biggest problem with Trump is that he's never even come close to implementing a sweeping policy like the ones he's advocating and we haven't really seen anything like them since the 1960s (the draft). Imagine a government actually implementing the things he describes and yeah, feels a lot like Hitler. Ban all Muslims? What about the ones already here? Maybe put them in special camps....
It's like the little Godwin who cried wolf (the little boy who cried Godwin?) - at some point there really is going to be someone comparable to Hitler and no one will see it coming because we get dismissive whenever someone is compared to Hitler.
Can we put Jimmy Carter in that category too since he banned Iranians during the Hostage Crisis? Or Roosevelt for interning Japanese Americans? You can make the dubious comparison to Hitler for countless politicians. I don't like him, but unless Trump starts systemically exterminating Muslims, he's not like Hitler. Those comparisons are lazy and do nothing but marginalize the Holocaust.
I think bringing up Hitler is useful in terms of taking a hard look at the decisions we're making and using it as a reminder that we're often only a few rationalizations away from horribleness. So I wouldn't necessarily say X Politician is like Hitler because of Y Proposal/Action, but I would say Y Proposal/Action is uncomfortably similar to what Hitler did and we really need to step back and think about what this really means for our country.
I understand, but I think comparisons like that get so overplayed that they lose meaning overtime. Calling someone a "racist" now is essentially meaningless because its thrown around for any perceived slight, instead of actually doing something racist. Hitler comparisons are going to have the same effect, its bordering on cartoonish. And I think we should be able to articulate how ideas and policy plans arent fruitful or downright dangerous without using Adolf Hitler as a yardstick.
The Holocaust was the end game, but there was a lot of other horrible shit the Nazis did before they got to that point; The Civil Service Restoration Act, the Nuremburg Laws, the Night of Broken Glass, among them. I don't think its a hyperbolic argument to make comparisons when there are legitimate similarities.
Uh, he never said or eluded to such a thing. He said he want to stop immigration of Muslims UNTIL we can properly vet them. Rather then the current administration's plan of we're going to let in X number, regardless.
I think if you're going to compare Trump to Hitler, you need to make a more nuanced and thoughtful comparison. Because I'm sure many people have said similar things Hitler may have said about anything at all. If you want to compare the tactics he uses to garner support, that's about as far as one can take the comparison. Because no one uses historical context to compare the rise of Hitler and why Trump is popular. At the end of WW1, Germany literally was defeated and they only finished paying off the war reparations from the first war a few years ago. In no way is the US in the same position Germany was in back then. No matter what Trump says, we aren't losing at everything in the same way. There is also a lot less support for Trump right now than there was for Hitler back then. You can't just call someone you don't like Hitler and compare the things he says to the Holocaust. Like Juice said above, it only marginalizes the holocaust.
Ok, I shouldn't have said it's fucking stupid, but if we're going to use loose enough criteria dictator Obama is like Hitler because of his executive orders and Sanders is like Hitler because of his socialism. We're just a big ole nation of shiny happy Hitlers depending on how you look at it. Trump's ideas, while bad at times, are based on real reasons and not nonsensical conspiracy theories so that's the main difference for me. That, and I don't think he's actually going to be a mass murderer, nor could he if he wanted.
Remember the world going crazy over Obama 7 years ago? The tears of joy, the preemptive Nobel prize? How much he said he'd accomplish in office, versus how much he actually did even with Congress on his side? Trump doesn't scare me, when both sides of the aisle hate him. It's just one more reason to give a fuck about the midterms. I remember Scott Brown symbolizing "a new American fascism", too. When smart people lose their shit, it's hysterical.
I hope we get more commercials this election cycle from that weird eastern European guy rambling about communism on the background of some desolate wasteland. Because those were fucking awesome.
This is an article I found interesting when discussing making state universities free to attend. Also there is a link in this article that goes a little bit deeper into the idea that colleges, until very recently, weren't solely focused on job training. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-purpose-of-college-a-job-or-an-education/
Or Fancy Ray. I think a commercial with Fancy Ray shilling for Trump could be the most hilarious political ad ever.
Well, he is the best looking guy in comedy. You combine that with Trump's hair and you've got a winning ticket, right?
Check this shit out: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...burglar-died-tried-make-citizen-s-arrest.html 1. So, a burglar with a history of grand larceny who is on probation and has served years of jail time breaks into a house. Who knows why, but if it was to steal something valuable, why would you break into the room that an infant is sleeping in? Odds are there won't even be a television in there. 2. Home owner/infant's father hears a noise and goes into the bedroom, to find a strange man rifling around amongst his sleeping baby. 3. A fight ensues. Police are called. Father puts burglar in a head lock, which ultimately leads to his air being cut off and his neck somehow being damaged/broken. 4. Both men are taken to hospital. Burglar's family elects to take him off life support, and he dies. 5. FATHER IS CHARGED WITH MURDER AND EVERYONE FROM POLICE TO THE REPORTER OF THIS STORY IS MAKING THE BURGLAR THE VICTIM. I will agree that the Stand Your Ground laws in the US are at times extreme, but IMO if you walk into your child's room and find a stranger has broken into it, and is in close proximity to your child, as far as I'm concerned you ought to be able to blow his head off right then and there. They should be giving this guy a medal, not arresting him. I haven't been this angry over a news article in a long time.
It's because the criminals' families always start with this bullshit: He wasn't a baby, he was a fucking useless piece of shit who was a danger to the community who deserved to die.