Guys, everything has been solved. No need to argue anymore. Someone on my facebook feed gave us the answer: "If you had a gun, you could have shot the gator and saved your child! But, you didn't and here is a reason to have one to protect your family!" Now who can argue with that? I think we are all indebted to her for clearly stating what needed to be said. I am particularly glad these lovely children are here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age. (Yes, this girl has the IQ of Chicklets)
Since this is the only place on the Internet you'll find an honest answer... I've never fired a gun. But a lot of you have, more than once. So, how full of shit is this NYDN reporter?
I think as a first step we need to know who a guns owner is. That will encourage responsible gun ownership, because if my gun goes missing and it winds up in the hands of someone who commits a crime it's on me to report it. The biggest part of this problem is what we don't know. Restricting gun sales is one thing, but keeping an updated registry on who owns what guns would help us get a handle on how the guns are moving around. This could influence gun owners in positive ways (you can better navigate the ridiculous state by state or county by county laws), and help regulators and enforcement. If there was a registry and the gun was used in a crime, then we know at least where to start talking. Gun goes missing, and you didn't report it? Can't buy any more for six months. Someone stole your gun from your garage? Report it and keep your right to purchase NEW guns...since it's clear we can't divert your right to own old guns. Transfers go the same way... I guess that's part of the problem. A car has a VIN and if it's on the road, it has to have insurance, registration, an owner that can be traced and a few people who have access to it. Without tying an owner to the weapon, it's hard for us to keep track of the guns and that leads to all sorts of crime. Would it prevent mass shootings? Probably not in several cases, but you can bet your sweet ass that it would encourage gun owners to have a lot more of this responsibility thing they keep talking about. Regarding the X-men hypothesis that if we have a registry, they will be targeted for an outright ban...at 300 million guns be realistic. I think if that legislation got passed, a lot of guns would get buried in the backyard and reported "stolen"...assuming this legislation would ever been seriously considered.
I'm not a gun guy and don't even keep one at home, but I am 'Murican so I've fired a few assault rifles and he's full of shit. The only way you're going to bruise your shoulder by squeezing off a few rounds is if you don't know how to hold the gun. If you're holding it right I have no idea how the shell casings would distort you either. I've fired 12 gauge shotguns that felt like they kicked a lot harder than an M-16. Assault rifles are really loud, but so are guns in general and that's why everyone wears hearing protection when they're at the range or target shooting in the field. There's a smell, but he's exaggerating by quite a bit. Maybe he's telling the truth about his temporary PTSD because if he's that damn clueless about how to use a gun he probably almost shot himself and freaked out. Here's what firing an AR-15 actually looks like.
I understand the sentiment. I really do. The reality is this: The State cannot even keep accurate records on license revocation; people are cited with driving without a license all of the time when they have paperwork on their person that states their license has been reinstated. Yet, the database the police have says it is still revoked and they still are charged and they still have to hire a lawyer and they still have to go to court to defend themselves or face even stiffer penalties to included jail time. If they can't get something as simple as a drivers license database right, how are they going to get a firearms database right? If they have a database that says that John Doe lives at 1 A Street and has guns then they are going to use a SWAT team to blow his door open, shoot his dogs and parade him and his family out on the front lawn until they realize that John Doe moved out 3 months ago and now they have a screaming family in tears with a dead dog on their hands. Sorry but fuck that noise.
A little update that includes the depth of ignorance and bigotry of America: I was talking to my wife who relayed a discussion she had with my son's VPK teacher. The teacher's brother was at Club Pulse when the shooting occurred, his friend was killed. The teacher's brother was interviewed directly after the events, he subsequently received interview requests from many other major media outlets around the world. He did the interviews....big mistake. Now, he and his family are receiving hate mail and deaths threats via voicemail, email and even snail mail from people who think he should be charged with murder for being gay, he should be dead because he is gay, people wishing he would die a painful death, people wishing his family were dead because he is gay. God Bless America. Because nobody else will.
The death knell of anyone, anywhere supporting BLM. At Mizzou. Of course. Students held a vigil for the victims of the Orlando shooting and a BLM activist hijacked the event with her BLM bullshit.
She actually expressed outrage that this vigil had a bigger draw than a BLM rally. This is the first time watching all of these countless protestor meltdowns where I audibly gasped. The fucking audacity of this spoiled little bitch. On topic: Milo had quite the colourful press conference in Miami, if you didn't catch it.
He also got suspended from Twitter: https://heatst.com/culture-wars/milo-has-been-suspended-from-twitter/
Yup. Because you can trash talk and point fingers at EVERYTHING but Islam, even if it happens to be directly involved: Somebody made a great point: how does this guy not represent Islam, yet he somehow represents all gun owners?
If anyone is interested, supposedly here are the DNC Trump files pilfered by a "Group of Russian" hackers: https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/ It was a nice touch calling himself Guccifer2.
Is anyone* actually claiming he represents all gun owners though? Or is that just the way it feels because any discussion on gun control by its very nature must affect all gun owners? I don't think i've seen anyone* come out and say "all gun owners are dangerous psychopaths just waiting for their moment to shoot up a school/nightclub/shopping mall/movie theatre!!!" *just to clarify by "anyone" here i mean anyone whose opinion actually fucking counts in a nationwide gun control debate (politicians, victims, law-makers, police etc), not some rando on twitter/FB spewing idiocy for views/trolling/whatever...
Jesus. The AR-15 is like a toy gun. It has almost no recoil and isn't even that loud. The only fear I had was that if I dropped it it would shatter into a thousand pieces - that's how flimsy the thing felt. (Though that may have been a function of the weapons I trained with; they were really beat to shit.)
Fuck everything about that arrogant spoiled cunt. It's like she didn't even realize that most of the people killed were gay Latinos. And then accused the crowd of being there for the wrong reasons...while she made it about herself. Just Jesus Christ already. This is why no one takes them seriously. And the guy who was scared of shooting an ar-15 must have had something stuck in his vagina. Literally the easiest gun to shoot ever. You have to actually try to miss what you're aiming at. And Milo was originally supposed to go to UCF to speak but then they cancelled the room they were going to give him so he held a "press conference" with Gavin McGinnis and laid absolute waste to Islam. The school claimed they couldn't keep him safe. Whatever. They had cops guarding every mosque in the area, but they were afraid of a gay conservative. Please.
No, but gun owners always get the side eye from everyone after mass shootings and we're asked why we think we need guns as if we've personally done something wrong. I've been accused of being paranoid when the truth is I hardly ever think about my guns and I feel safe 99.9% of the time I don't have a gun near me. I do think I need to be a responsible gun owner and be held accountable as such, but I don't think I should have to explain myself as to why I own guns in the first place. Especially when I own them legally. That reporter's account of firing an AR-15 is probably the most melodramatic thing I've ever read. Those things are known for having hardly any recoil. I'd like to see him try a shotgun.
OK i see that, but it is a natural reaction though for those who are uninformed on firearms or against them totally or just plain scared/confused/angry that this kind of thing could happen. Maybe some rational discussion with these people (I know that's easier said than done) about the benefits and reasons for owning your firearms might go a long way to easing those fears? There's always going to be a fringe on either side that is literally frothing at the mouth and will never listen to reason, but id wager there's more people sitting in the middle who just dont know what the fuck to do or think after an event like this. As a gun owner in a country where the vast majority do not own guns i always get the side eye when i tell people i shoot... and the first thing i do is invite them to the range. Everyone I've ever taken has come away saying "wow! that was really fun, and safe, and all the people there were so normal! I don't know why i was so scared" To play devils advocate here don't you think Muslims get the exact same problem anytime some wacko does something terrible in the name of their religion? Bet theres a whole lotta extra side-eye being cast their way right now... Should they have to explain why they choose to follow their religion or why a terrorist doesnt represent their entire religion? Especially when they follow that religion peacefully and legally? Is their 1st amendment right somehow less important than your 2nd amendment right? Id personally argue Freedom of Religion is more of a fundamental human right than the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (and i'm an atheist and a gun owner). As with gun owners the vast majority of Muslims (there are 1.6 Billion of them) are never going to abuse their religion for sick and twisted purposes, but they all get tarred with the same brush when someone does. Is that fair? Hell no it isn't... but as a Responsible Gun Owner or Responsible Muslim I think you have a duty to show people what that term actually means after someone twists your ideology/passion/lifestyle for their own sick agenda. Engage with the people who are giving you the side-eye and show them your POV in a thoughtful, calm and respectful manner... Don't just shut down the conversation with a "Dont want to! I'm a good guy!" because at present the only people they do hear from are those who are screaming the loudest, and unfortunately those people are usually those frothing at the mouth lunatic fringe members I mentioned earlier. Also i couldn't agree more about that reporters BS on shooting an AR-15... what a fucking wanker... it gave him PTSD? what the actual fuck... Thats just fucking insulting to actual PTSD sufferers
When are these grassroots movements going to learn? If you want to accomplish anything you need to establish leadership and a platform. Otherwise, the assholes just hijack it. With the disclaimer you wrote I knew, but that was so sincere, yet self parodying I was half expecting her to get to the actual point of the event. Check out the white guy on the left at 1:24. "Who are you really here for?" Me too! Anyone else have that relationship with your friends, where if they're Latino, Jewish, Asian, or whatever else, as soon as they realize you're not a douche bag you can casually make any ethnic joke, but it's never comfortable when you hang out with anyone black. They won't make white people jokes either because there's that awkward dichotomy of 'Well, I can make a joke, but then he can't'. My gut says it's because of historical reasons, but then I don't think so. It's more like I know not to make a holocaust joke unless it's really fringe and contextual, and not to flagrantly drop an N bomb. Granted, this was 8 years ago, but some of the Pakistani guys I hung out with in college would make suicide bomber jokes. Would they do that today? It's kind of hard when the message is always 'That hurts me, and if you're not hurting you're dumb.' Is privilege awareness or historical hypersensitivity actually a healthy way to interact with people? Comedians are starting to avoid doing college gigs. What's the point when you're going to get lectured on racism from people who don't understand racism? The Chappelle show was the funniest show on TV because it made fun of everybody and no one gave a shit.
Eh, they're just overly sensitive people stuck living in the past. It's like Native Americans, they get so pissed about the whole trail of tears thing and talking about theft but in reality they have nobody to be mad at but themselves. They should have fought harder. I mean, let's face it, we white people are bad fucking news. You don't want us showing up on your doorstep. We fuck shit up.
Getting ready for work and just shot a fox that was stalking the perimeter of the yard. Fox in daylight = likely rabid. Fox in yard = danger to animals. That's two strikes and they only need one. Used my 10/22 which is a popular semi-auto version of the .22. Made by Ruger, the 10/22 is one you see getting modified to look like AR's and everything. Yes, it took multiple shots (because I'm humane and didn't want to let it bleed out or even risk a missed shot when I had several more in the clip). If I'd let it continue to roam the yard it would have been an immediate danger to my cat and small dogs, as well as my wife and son when they went outside. So, just adding a real-world example of the necessity of having a firearm in rural America.