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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. xrayvision

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    It doesn't seem to work much there but if the cops showed up and got into shoot-outs OK Corral style every day, people would blame the cops for it and a lot of cops would be dead from gang violence.

    And to take Chicago as the example for the rest of the country is disingenuous, to me. Considering that other large cities don't quite behave that way. I don't know the actual statistics but a lot of this comes right back to the war on drugs and the mentality behind it. Which has been shown to be racially motivated and didn't solve anything.

    That shaped the basis for how law enforcement views and treats black people. If you create laws that create criminals, you then view those groups and criminals and they don't stand a chance.
     
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    FOX news on TV....it looks like a couple of cops got shot at the protest in Dallas. Something big is happening.

    EDIT: There were 2-3 cops on the ground not moving before they cut away. Now they're showing police scattering and reporting shots fired.
     
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    Interesting tactic with respect to the Clinton email stuff.

    While Clinton has been cleared of criminal charges/indictment, there's some noise now that enough shit has been shown about how badly she handled her information that she shouldn't be given any security clearances. Kind of hard to be Pres without security clearance.

    Now, assuming that she gets some sort of pardon and does get the required security clearances, the shit that came out from all of her top aides has, so some feel, precluded them from being able to get the required clearances to do their jobs as her aide.

    It could very well be that Hillary has to clear out a whack of her staff and start over.

    It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
     
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    Completely moot point. The ability to classify or declassify information is an executive power, and thus the authority to do so flows from the president. As does the authority to bestow classification authority on subordinates. If she is elected president, she has de facto security clearance to every piece of classified information the US has.
     
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    The president doesn't get a security clearance. They get to see everything without going through that process.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Good Christ. 10 shot, 3 dead, 2 in surgery.

    2 snipers.

    All cops.
     
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    Dallas police officers have an incredible relationship with the community, and were at the PEACEFUL protest posing with protestors in photos.
    This breaks my heart.
     
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    If you're interested in the Executive Order given by Obama in 2009 that grants classifying authority to the various department heads:
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-original-classification-authority

    I did find this section funny:
    AKA "What the fuck do you tree huggers really need classification authority for in the first place? You're lucky you got any authority at all."
     
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    Fourth officer dead.
     
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    This shit is absolutely terrifying. Makes me want to get out of law enforcement permanently.

    And with the above post mentioning a prosecutor being targeted, makes me want to tell my husband to find another type of law to practice.
     
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    Texas is open carry. That is cuckoo to me. for public and police safety. That just screams you're looking for trouble. CNN has a picture of a suspect just walking around with an AR strapped to his shoulder: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/us/philando-castile-alton-sterling-reaction/index.html

    This country is on fire. Protests everywhere. That idiot Trump just stoking the flames. I just got into it with a long time acquaintance on FB over his Trump support. There memes flying everywhere with zero context, most of them incorrect, let alone improper grammar. Congress is telling the director of the FBI he is a liar and in collusion with Clinton. This is fucking insane.

    Nobody wants to talk about shit, and now we have this.
     
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    If it's the black guy in the camo top carrying the AR he turned himself in and is on video actively NOT participating in the shooting.
     
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    And they started circulating a random black dude who was open carrying during the shooting and calling him a suspect. Forcing him to turn himself in so he doesn't get fucking killed.
     
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    That'd be him. Eventually Reddit, or pick-a-media-outlet, is going to get some innocent schmoe fucking killed.

    I can't wrap my head around this. I am so tired of dumb, scared, short sighted, miserable little people. America is on the precipice of something ugly. The next 2 elections will decide what kind of country we wish to be. If Trump wins, it will be decided quickly. It will be that we gave up. We let fear and stupidity win. We let regression in and allowed tribalism to overshadow the bonds of being countrymen. We've been pissing away our credibility, defunding our schools, ignoring our infrastructure, staging political theater. And this is what we get.
     
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    It is sad that we will get to see just how little race relations have moved in this country. It is a very gross time in this country for sure.
     
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    It's all Obama's fault for dividing this country. /sarcasm

    Every time I see that I ask, "what did he do?" Still waiting on a good answer.