You didn't address my central question, what is their social agenda? Violence and rage are contagious. They don't have to say shoot cops for someone to be inspired to do so from their behaviors. Instead of peacefully communicating with police, they engage in rallies that are seen as provocative and aggressive.
Anyone else now really worried about the RNC? I mean I was worried before, but now I'm REALLY worried.
I wasn't even attempting to address your question. I'm not a black lives matter protester. Besides, why don't you just tell me. It seems like you already have an answer.
Not a good chant. Not something I condone. Still a far cry from advocating violence. I mean unless you're so politically correct that you can't allow for metaphorical language.
Right. Totally not advocating violence. And the shootings of cops are completely unrelated to the protests. Funny how you know when they're language is metaphorical but refuse to speculate as to what their agenda is. How could that be?
Gravy I think you're on tricky ground as we all are. At what point is something a metaphor and at what point is something hate speech? When does something promote violence while another promotes a cause? White supremacist have towed this line for decades with their literature and rallies. We've seen that with extremist Muslim movements as well. I can't say whats metaphorical and whats hate speech. Thats way out of my league and I think we'd need a really well versed lawyer judge in here to work out those differences. What I don't think you're providing is anything to contribute on here. So far you're saying we're wrong for thinking BLM is aggressive and you're not saying why they aren't, you just saying we're wrong because... because we're too sensitive?
Mutual feelings are mutual. And you didn't say that they were aggressive. You said they were promoting hatred of the white community. As a member of the white community, I don't feel hated by them.
I know their language is metaphorical because I'm an English teacher. It sort of fits the definition of metaphorical language. I didn't say the shooting of cops are completely unrelated to the protests. I just said black lives matter has (as far as I know) not advocated for violence. The fact of the matter is, nothing I have read says that the two are related though. And how do you suppose we find out their agenda? But it really doesn't matter does it? You have your mind made up. I could lay out a 20,000 word thesis, with more sources than the history of the New York Times, and it wouldn't make a jot of difference. Your mind is already made up.
I don't know if they hate white people, because I don't feel threatened. If I was a police officer I think I would feel threatened. If they don't want people to think they are violent ass holes perhaps they need a leader telling them not to be violent ass holes. Because this shit is dispicable and needs to stop.
Just out of curiosity does this swing both ways? If he provided you the same thesis and sources showing they were advocating violence would you believe it? I'm really not trying to be a dick. I'm genuinely curious. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
They all might not want to kill cops. But if they want police policies to change, someone killing them wholesale isn't the way to go about it. I assume constantly fearing for your life while on the job will only serve to increase tensions.
Fair point and question. I don't know if I would believe it, but I wouldn't dismiss it wholesale and I would read it. How do I know that? Well, here I am engaging in a thread where pretty much everyone disagrees with me. If I weren't interested in challenging my own opinions, why would I engage with an echo-chamber of people who disagree with me?
BLM is a racist and exclusionary group. They are increasing the problem, not bridging it. Take a look at the shit they pulled with the Toronto Pride Parade where they halted the parade until such time as they forced the organizers to sign a "contract" that excluded police in the future. They are bullies, and they are making the problem worse, not better.
The issue with what you just said isnt the hypocrisy and mental gymnastics of the left. It's the binary way in which they view the world in these circumstances. They see it in terms of oppressor vs oppressed. Black people and BLM are oppressed by white people and cops, therefore they cannot be in the wrong if they are also victims. The Orlando shootings and Nice attacks are done by Muslims who the left somehow feel are bigger victims than their actual victims. Therefore, the ideology cannot be blamed and the perpetrators of the attackers victimhood are really the cause of them acting out. The Dylan Roof shooting was perpetrated by a white supremacist who have historically victimized black people and are the oppressors. They don't see white Christians as victims mostly because they aren't. Even when they are victimized by the two previous groups mentioned. It's their way of always trying to place blame on white people. It's a double standard that ignores nuance and places blame squarely on people they don't like.
That picture represents us both right? I actually read this thread a hell of a lot more than I participate it anyway. And thank you for the list of opinions presented as cold hard truths that I should swallow without second thought.