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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. xrayvision

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    Of course you won't hear it about Hillarys campaign because as so many of the emails prove, the DNC had open lines of communication with the press and were able to tell them what to do.

    And as it has been shown immeasurably before, there is nothing Hillary can do that would make her supporters criticize her in any way. She could stab an orphan in neck with a sharpened tooth brush and they would find a way to blame the orphan.
     
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    Surprisingly, look who picked up on it:

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    I also heard today that 1/3 of the permits issued by Philly for rallies during the DNC are Bernie rallies. Get your popcorn ready, this could get real ugly, real quick.
     
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    Good. The uglier the better. This election is pretty much the worst thing ever. America either needs to admit they fucked up in fronting these two fuckheads, or finally tell us this is a big practical joke you've been playing on us all.

    How much more sticky can this get? From scandal after scandal on Hillary's side that she skates from like Pavel Bure, to Trump's first and foremost plan to bankrupt the country because he thinks Mexicans can't dig, climb, swim, sail or fly. Also in a time of absolute boiling point quoting the the police can literally do no wrong.

    I mean, look at how insanely stupid Clinton is. They talk about Trump not knowing anything about the economy. Well, they're right. But then to the Left we have this Iraq-war voting bitch who insist that "We have to close the gender wage gap!!!" I remember when even American democrats were good at fact-checking. There is no wage gap. In the past ten years there has not been a more disproven and debunked myth than the wage gap myth. It's a real Regressive Left go-to, using the wage gap thing. The Regressive Left has made me dispise being a Liberal. They are the demographic that includes SJWs, third wave feminists, fainting-couch college students, and people trying to censor art and typed words literally over the reason that they would hurt a person's feelings. And Clinton is a regressive left candidate. Her platform is "Everything is fine, nothing to see here, you owe me $500,000 thank you and good night."

    And Trump Im old enough to know for a fact he's nothing he says he is and he's nothing his supporters think he is. He was born on third and everyone says he hit a triple. He actually IS a clueless, spoiled little rich boy who got fast tracked through life. Yes he IS responsible for the ruination of corporations---bankruptcy after bankruptcy. He sold his Trump Shuttle planes while they were in mid-flight, and his CASINOS went bankrupt. Native living in the middle of nowhere make a killing doing that. So let's give this man the keys to the Kingdom?

    So this new thing saying the election could have been stolen from Sanders? That would not surprise me in the LEAST. Because I have a hard time believing either of these candidates are favoured over Sanders. Sanders also had retarded economic expectations, but he did speak the facts a lot more than Trump and Clinton put together. And since we've all seen right before our eyes the influence the Clintons have on the government directly anyway (such as corrupting the FBI) how can you not say there's some serious cheating going on?
     
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    I got my popcorn and my Gary Johnson vote ready. Who else wants to watch the world burn (Bern?) now with me?

    I don't donating to certain causes I otherwise would largely because I'm afraid of my donations becoming public in some kind of leak (that's why I take my local PD breakfast tacos once in a while instead of donating, for example). But Wikileaks is one of the few places I'd consider actually donating to.
     
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    I heard it was a marketing thing.

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    I wanna see the response that got cut off at the very bottom of the image.
     
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    Wait, Elizabeth Warren is white, except when applying for jobs, right?

    Why is anybody surprised by Kaine? She doesn't need a minority running mate. Trump has made sure she will carry the minority vote. She needs to convince non-minority folk to vote for her now. He appears to be a neocon/neoliberal just like Hillary. More of the same.
     
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    Yep. Listening to Kaine today, he kept breaking into Spanish and Hillary would be grinning like the Cheshire Cat....it was pandering at it's worst.

    Also, the apparent radio silence from MSM about the wikileaks e-mails is quite telling. For days CNN and others had their top story about Melania's speech and how some of it may have been plagiarized, basically a non story, but now possibly damaging info about the DNC comes out and....nothing.
     
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    It's blatantly obvious what's going on here. This election is a great opportunity to really fuck things up for the two party system. But people will vote for Hillary anyway.
     
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    Telling in what way? Who is surprised at this? The last 5 or so presidential elections in the popular vote have been roughly equal in votes for the Democrat and the Republican candidate. Yet, name a reporter, anchor, (or late night talk show host) at any network besides Fox, that you think will vote for a Republican. There's a reason Fox News was started and has been so successful at filling a void. Every other network despises Trump and treats him like a jokey demon - which he may be, but that doesn't mean there aren't 60 million people out there who will vote for him. They watch news, too.
     
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    I saw an article today that had Johnson polling at close to 30% in Utah, so maybe people are waking up.
     
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    He just needs to get on the debate stage. Not that he will get equal time or be treated well, but at least getting on the stage will be good.
     
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    Johnson has two major downfalls that I have seen when he debates. For one, he doesn't have Bill Weld on stage with him at all times to sound more stately and organized and two, tied to being stately, when he gets even the slightest bit flustered his mannerisms, speech patterns and expressions make him come across like a rain man.
     
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    He's definitely a bit of a weirdo. He went on Rogan's podcast several weeks ago and it was really a good interview. But he's not great with specifics and his foreign policy knowledge is basically dogshit.

    I'm on board with him because he's all about letting people live their lives the way they want to and minimizing government intervention.
     
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    I'm glad she didn't pick Cory Booker. He needs to ride on his own ticket, his own campaign (next election or so)and stay the fuck away from her. Nobody is better suited to be President than him and he shouldn't look like he's leeching.

    He's not an old guy at all, he's a VERY intelligent --gifted intelligence-- He gets his hands dirty in the streets helping people and Jesus Christ he's a conversation blackbelt. I mean, like no politician EVER. If you have never heard him talk, people; pull up interviews and forums with him as a speaker, he will put a smile on your face. His insane positivity, his BELIEF in your country would make just about any U.S. Conservative smile, and the guy's a democrat.

    His time will come, he'll be the breath of fresh air the Liberals in your country need.
     
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    That would be so awesome. Unfortunately a great deal of people want the government to take the place of their parents and take care of them like children...until it's inconvenient for them.

    Last time I was at the DMV someone had a petition for drug testing for welfare recipients. I saw a woman go off on the people with the petition about how it's her body and she can do what she wants with it. That's great. How many of us have had to pass drug tests for our jobs? The jobs that we have that pay the taxes that support her. She wanted the government to take care of her basic needs, but don't they dare tell her that she can't do whatever the fuck she wants.

    It should not work that way.
     
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    I understand why it seems logical to want to test welfare people. But if they blow it on drugs, then that's their deal. They don't get to just ask for more than they usually get. I don't give a shit. I don't think their drug use is that big of a deal.

    But like I said, the general logic why it should be done makes sense. But in actuality, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
     
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    I hate the logic behind it. The idea that it's a good idea to waste taxpayer money (and it is a waste - the costs are so out of line with number of drug users they catch it's dumbfounding) solely to shit on people with the justification that they're already generally looked down upon by society already is completely and utterly contemptible. It's legislating by perceived virtue at its worst. Personally I think it may be the fundamental problem this country has - that people can be neatly categorized as "good" or "bad", with historical beliefs around race, class, gender, and sexual orientation having a huge amount of influence over who gets placed in which category. Then we take those categories and feel totally justified in creating burden after burden for "bad" people while making excuse after excuse "good" people. This mode of thinking is most in line with general conservative ideology, but I see plenty of it from the left as well. I really wish we as a society would mature past it.
     
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    The real push behind it is that someone would make a shit-ton of money enforcing it, and has paid a politician to introduce the idea into government. The "logic" is just bullshit they're spinning to try and validate it and get it through.
     
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    You're absolutely right about the push; I'm almost certain I've read that testing companies lobbied for this in Wisconsin to get it put into place. However the underlying logic is still pervasive throughout society, and is a big reason - even accounting for lobbying - why this kind of legislation is successful.