Meanwhile the DNC is locking out Bernie delegates and replacing them with paid-for seat-fillers, and setting up white noise machines beside the stage, all in an effort to make it look like the DNC is united.
Oh, and it comes with such thoughtful commentary. Well, it's just mass election fraud. It will be so funny if some idiots make a statement about it. It's good to see the smart people don't take this seriously.
I'm not the biggest Obama fan, but God damn, that was a great speech. My wife leans a little Left and after hearing Obama talk, she was feeling pretty damn good about voting for Hillary. After Hillary's speech, she's back to ground zero.
I'm kind of the same way. It sounded like a eulogy. I don't typically judge a politician based on speech giving. But I'm just not inspired.
Obama's speech might have been the best of his career, and the man has given great speeches. Hes probably the second best politician in recent US history, I think Bill Clinton beats him on it.
I'm still having trouble with Obama's statement that HRC is the most qualified presidential candidate ever. I mean, I get that it's a big pep rally, but really? George H.W. Bush: Vice President; Director, CIA; Congressman, US House of Representatives; US Ambassador, United Nations; Lieutenant, US Navy LBJ: Vice President; Senator, Majority Leader, Minority Leader, Whip, US Senate; Congressman, US House of Representatives; Commander, US Naval Reserves Richard Nixon: Vice President; Senator, US Senate; Congressman, US House of Representatives; Commander, US Naval Reserves Dwight D Eisenhower: Supreme Allied Commander, Europe; President, Columbia University; Chief of Staff, US Army; Franklin D. Roosevelt: Assistant Secretary of the Navy; Governor, New York; Senator, New York State Senate Theodore Roosevelt: Vice President; Assistant Secretary of the Navy; Governor, New York; Minority Leader, New York State Assembly
I only went through the 20th century. Going back further it can get even more absurd, especially with guys like Adams.
Ugh. Again. 1) Jefferson was in France when the constitution was written. He did write the Declaration of Independence but it was heavily edited before it came out, and he in fact felt that said editors removed much of what he loved about it. 2) Jefferson was staunchly in the Anti-Federalist camp that pushed heavily against ratifying that new constitution. Not only did he not write it, he didn't like it at all, and only reluctantly went along with it once a bill of rights was added. The lack of knowledge of our history by our own nation is always staggering to me.
I'm not a fan of Hillary's politics for a number of reasons, which I'll come to in a second, but while I appreciate your nod to history, Aetius, the reality is there is one glaring omission from that list that Hillary checks off (and was in fact considered the actual position necessary to train a future President by the Founding Fathers) - Secretary of State. Other than actually being President, this is the position that makes a person ready for the position. As I've noted time and again in here, the reality is the President's authority is ascendent in foreign policy. Frankly, it is a more powerful position than any other save President. She has been a Senator, which is great preparation, and First Lady - which I'll give a hearty 'fuck you' to anyone that thinks that being the type of First Lady she was, similar to Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Michelle Obama, isn't preparation of the highest order for the position. While I admire many of the folks on your list, the reality is she has had the type of exposure to the position that no one else previously has had in the modern era. My problems with Hillary? Strangely enough, the whole 'trustworthiness' issue doesn't bother me as the last President that was 'trustworthy' was Carter and that was a shitshow, so here's what bothers me: Since the first Clinton, Democrats are enamored with Economists. They treat them like they actually know something, like it's a science, instead of a social science, much like my political science degree. The difference being I KNOW that my degree isn't a hard science degree. For some reason, the Clinton/Obama thread of the Democratic party treat economists like the end all be all, and they're not. They get it wrong. A lot. Second, the slavish belief on the part of Democrats that the stock market is actually an indication of anything having to do with the day to day work life of the average person. Third, the idea that war is one of the first clubs out of the bag. However, even given my deep ideological differences with the Democratic party (and BIAS ALERT: I've been a registered Republican since '90 and switched my affiliation this year) I will not vote for Trump. I will also not vote for Johnson of Stein, because despite the fact that they both may line up better with me, they can't win, and I'm not going to waste my vote. So yes, I'll vote Hillary. Kind of like fucking a fat chick, yes, the end result is a bit repugnant, but at last call at the bar, my choices are limited by reality.
Everyone liked Obama's speech so much because he sounded like a conservative republican through a great portion of it. Pretty funny. It's all smoke and mirrors all the time from every candidate. I was never one to fuck fat chicks to bust a slump. I have more self respect than that.
Seriously? This guy? He's incredibly biased. I'm all for fair play, but this guy? C'mon, there are much better critics.
There are better people to hear it from than that sawed-off Ted Cruz cheerleader. Obama did talk about himself a lot, agreed, but Shapiro is a tabloid bimbo. So something horrible happened in Texas. A hot air balloon went up in flames during its flight and killed sixteen people.
Mike Pence came out today and said: "We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs." Now maybe this is just a ploy to get more support from the evangelical and Christian Right that isn't as high on Trump. But it's still a scary sentiment considering that the next President will select one, and maybe two, Supreme Court justices. (This also is because of my opinion on the subject so if you don't have the same feelings on it this won't bother you. And even though this is the serious thread it might be wading too far out of peaceful discourse on here. So if it is just ignore the whole post) But, this is why I can't agree with people who say to vote third party to show "the establishment" that you want change. That works well in theory, but if in doing so it ends up providing the margin for the candidate you're against to win, then it will potentially have real and lasting impact.
Context: "(I) couldn't be more proud to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the next pro-life president of the USA," Pence told the southwest Michigan audience. "I believe we'll see Roe v. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs." http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/mike...ald-trump/2016/07/29/id/741149/#ixzz4FuzgXJd4
No doubt he wants it thrown out, but there is a huge difference between saying "I believe X will happen" and "X will happen."
The fact that he's biased doesn't change the fact that his analysis of the speech was correct. He did indeed sound a lot like a conservative Republican and I think his point that Obama made a brilliant political move by trying to co-opt the conservative message in the absence of a true conservative candidate was valid. It turned my stomach listening to him speak about conservative values in a positive way especially since he's done everything he can to thwart the very things he seemed to champion in that speech. This kind of shit is why I don't consider myself a Republican anymore. It really pisses me off that the religious fucking right has hijacked the party and is keeping conservatism from getting a fair shake. Why the hell should he or anyone else care what someone wants to do with their body if it's not hurting them?