I, for one, am personally very comfortable with calling the literal white supremacists she was referring to as deplorable.
It's a completely accurate statement (sure, the percentages may be off, but you can't deny that his campaign is buttressed by the most hateful, racist, bigoted assholes out there). I don't see anything wrong with what she said. It might be offensive to some people, but so what? The people who disagree with it, are likely the people she's referring to anyway. The sad part is that these fuckers can vote. Not that I'm saying I support taking away their vote for being literally the pond scum of society. But it is sad. **edit** Probably should add, this hits home for me, because my in-laws are the fanatical trump supporters Clinton was likely referring to. Last weekend my son was playing with my wife's makeup, her uncle actually got pissed and took it away causing a scene. I asked him, in all seriousness, what he would do if my son was gay. He responded "I'd take him out back and --" I didn't let him finish. I responded that if he wanted an ass kicking in front of his wife and family he better not finish that statement. Then his mother (my grandmother in law) chimed in and said "gays are what's wrong with America!"... Trump, by acting the way he is, is giving these people permission to be assholes. Literally, scum. And it's starting to impact me on a very personal level. I am not voting for Clinton -- I am a Johnson supporter -- but I do agree with her statement.
You think the Overton window is moving to the Left? Carbon credits were a Republican idea 20 years ago. Obamacare is basically Romneycare. Hillary Clinton is pretty much Nixon in a pantsuit. I've seen Barry Goldwater quotes passed around Facebook to illustrate how crazy the right wing has gotten. Barry Goldwater.
Ahh... my bad. To be honest, I've been surprised by just about everything Hillary has done with her campaign... just when I kept thinking, "yep, her's to lose...", she goes and fucks it up somehow. As much as people were bitching about her not doing press conferences, I think it was one of the smarter things she's done.
True. But his candidacy has given these people legitimacy and, like RoTN said, made them feel safer to make their ideas known. I simultaneously think Trump's only interest in the presidency is power for power's sake while also believing he doesn't seem to grasp the power he has, even now. What he says matters, and even if he's saying things just to be provocative or as jokes or not caring about exaggeration or facts, or even if he genuinely did not know all the times he's retweeted or parroted language/symbols of white supremacists because he's a careless idiot, tons of people are going to take him for his word and feel empowered by what he's saying. There's already been violence carried out by his supporters. And the rhetoric that's been able to come back into the mainstream through his supporters in the media and at his rallies and just everyday life is stomach-churning. Whenever people say a Trump presidency wouldn't be THAT bad because of checks and balances and what not, that could be true. But what I'm most worried about is what standard it's going to set for regular people, and what it might empower people to do. I've lived in a liberal bubble my whole life and thought that, while obviously racism and sexism still existed, that at least the worst parts of it were in the past and that most of it wasn't exactly fueled by hatred but more like ignorance. (I also thought that Anti-Semitism basically didn't exist in the U.S anymore. Guess not!) And one of the most depressing things about this campaign, to me, has been realizing that for a way too large segment of this country, it's never stopped existing, people have just learned to stay quiet about it. I know that there is a part of PC Culture that is really annoying and goes too far. I've never really encountered it in my life - I've somehow always managed to be surrounded by people who care about respecting people and not hurting anyone but also don't have a stick up their ass and can take/tell a joke - but I hate when people use that reasoning for other issues, so I'm just going to believe that it exists. And overzealous college students and people (who are often also overzealous college students, or younger) whining on Twitter don't really concern me that much. But I am just so tired of that being used to dismiss criticisms of Trump and his campaign and his supporters when there are actual, real, issues happening. I do not want it to be okay to be so blatantly and openly and directly racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, or transphobic. I don't want there to be legislation enacted or violence committed that align with those views. And when it comes to issues like these, I am so done with hate speech being dismissed as "just words" and waving away being offended or threatened by them. Words matter. Words can be harassment and abuse and psychologically damaging and can make you fear for your safety. I just can never, ever, equate the right of someone to be free to openly call someone the N word or saying Muslims deserve to die or telling a woman they hope she gets raped for speaking out about something with the right for any of those groups to be free from that. I just can't understand how PC Culture is the ultimate issue and boogeyman in this election for some people, how people can be undecided because each side is "just as bad" because of it, as if that somehow balances it out. I just can't understand how on the one side I'm seeing women, minorities, Muslims, LGBTQ people fearing for their rights being taken away and fearing for their safety and fearing that they'll just have more and more hatred and ignorance hurled at them, and on the other side it's "But PC Culture means I might not be able to casually make race jokes as boldly as I used to" and people are somehow thinking it's a contest. I just don't mourn for the continued loss of that kind of thinking to be acceptable, whether it's silencing Full Blown Fill-in-the-Blank-ists again (or at least retreating to their far corners of the internet) or getting regular people who sometimes have Fill-in-the-Blank-ist ideas to do better. It keeps getting tossed around that PC Culture is to blame for Trump's candidacy and the rise/relevancy of his supporters, like it's "forcing" these people to embrace this kind of thinking and speaking, as if they haven't just been waiting for someone to come along so they can speak their minds again. The way I've been seeing it this whole time is more like a death rattle temper tantrum of people who realize their way of life is ending and that their point of view is no longer acceptable, who are perceiving equality as a loss of power and oppression. And I just don't feel bad about it.
Personally, I am sick of reading about colleges giving in to the pansies and creating safe spaces. Honestly fuck safe spaces, trigger warnings, and anything that resembles them. Higher ed is supposed to be about learning and being introduced to ideas that may not conform to your safe space. There can be no education if you totally shut out any opinion that violates your safe space. Science is based on trying new things and going against the norm.
Did you go to college? People don't go to college so they can yell faggot and nigger out loud all day like a Mississippian with Tourette's. Once again this is an issue where the middle ground is acceptable.
I think you are making an unfair comparison between being a racist/sexist/homophobic and PC culture. As far as not encountering PC culture going to far, we had the owner of this board lose their job for just moderating the very website you are typing on. Someone lost their livelihood simply because another person disagreed with them. I'm sure there are legitimate cases of people referencing PC culture as an excuse just to be a shitty racist human being, but whenever I think of PC culture, I view it as silencing and punishing opposition viewpoints because someone is offended by those viewpoints. It's the continuation of the idea you can force morality on a populous through negativity instead of positivity.
Looks like Hillary may have bigger problems now, with all the talk about her health, the coughing fits, her not being very actively campaigning and now this: EDIT: Found embedable video
If she were hiding a serious health problem and it got out, her campaign is effectively over. Hello president Trump.
Whoa. That does not look good in light of all the rumors. The media is already jumping on it. FoxNews is saying she passed out, CNN is saying she's "overcome by the emotion of the event" and that she's "overheated."
I'm not sure I'll ever forgive the Democratic Party for being so obsessed with pushing Clinton into the White House that they have brought us this close to defaulting the election to Trump.
Is the concern for Clinton's health, or that the potential nex POTUS is riding in a 1996 Econoline Conversion van? Maybe she did just get too hot and was dehydrated.
That's what they're saying and it is feasible, however, it was about 75 degrees and 40% humidity....not exactly sweltering.
Its very possible. Considering shes wearing a pantsuit and, very likely, a heavy bullet-proof vest underneath it. Combine that with being a senior citizen and a hot/humid day, its very reasonable to assume she could be dehydrated. But appearances are what they are, as unfair as it might be.