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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Kampf Trinker

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    Yeah, these people are jackasses.

    1. Idiots protest for questionable reasons.
    2. Idiots riot.
    3. Cops use non-lethal force to disperse and arrest said idiots.
    4. People get angry at the cops.

    Yep, never seen this before.

    Remember too, if someone supports the cops in one case they always support the cops. Plus they hate brown people. The news said so.

    I'm all for protecting the environment, but how much bullshit and red tape are we going to go through before we get anything done? The engineers have already done assessments. Do the protesters really want another assessment or do they just want to get their way? Even though the pipeline doesn't cross their land, it's just 'too near it'. Maybe something that comes out as the story develops will change my mind, but from what I'm seeing fuck 'em.
     
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    Watching that video, I stopped when I saw burning tires on the fire. Seems a little, oh I dont know, hypocritical.
     
  3. toytoy88

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    Can one of the Canadians here explain to me exactly what the fuck was up with Trudeau's comments about Castro?

    Castro served his people with a deep love and dedication to the people of Cuba? Is that why Cubans continually risk life and limb to get the hell out of Cuba? Because Castro was smothering them with his deep love and dedication and they wish to go somewhere more oppressive?
     
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    It's because Trudeau is a fuckstick.
     
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    This is kind of true.

    True, because Trudeau's liberals - and by extension, Trudeau - got elected only for these reasons:
    - The Liberals were not the Conservatives (who had been in power too long), the NDP (who are too communist to be the federal leadership), the Green (who are essentially a one-issue party), or the Bloc (ha!)
    - He is attractive and charming and young.
    - His surname has traction in Ontario and the East. Trudeau west of Manitoba is burned in effigy, but they don't have the population to swing the vote.

    "Kind-of" because he still has the following baggage:
    - Trudeau has never held a real job in his life. Ever.
    - He learned politics from a lunatic who bankrupted the West to buy votes in the east and was responsible for crippling the country's construction and oil economy for the better part of a decade.
    - His mother is certifiably crazy, and disgraced herself when his father was in office and their marriage was ending. Sins of the parents, and all.

    I will say this about him: he created an appropriate cabinet. I.e. the Minister of Education is a teacher, the Minister of Veterans Affairs is a combat veteran, etc. The cabinet is gender balanced and he pointed out that it's 2015, so get over it. He also insists on all of his cabinet being pro-choice. I've pointed out that this is a swing issue for me, so him taking that stance bumps him way up in terms of my vote.

    He will eventually fuck it up royally. It's already begun, especially out west. He doesn't have the business acumen to see a policy and how it affects the economy; he's been on the public tit his entire life. This latest gaff is just a stupid thing a politician is apt to do when they try to sound balanced and smart, IMO.
     
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    Now that I have a daughter, hearing stories like this break my heart, because I know that as a parent, we forget shit. Usually, it's pretty innocuous; we forget to ask for a lollipop at CVS, we forget about field trips (that we agreed to chaperone), we forget to brush their hair before school. I hear about stories where parents get to work only to realize they forgot to drop their kids at daycare - and sometimes wonder how it doesn't happen more often - and then you hear about these tragedies that most parents can't even read about (like me).

    However, I did read enough to know that twelve people found this dad guilty of not just murder, but several other charges that were really unusual: malice murder, two counts of felony murder, first-degree cruelty to children, second-degree cruelty to children, sexual exploitation of children and two counts of disseminating harmful material to minors. The plurality of the charges obviously point to more than just the daycare tragedy, but I can't bring myself to Google this and find another Casey Anthony story.

    But holy fuck, why is the prosecutor's theory that "Harris killed Cooper so he could be free of his family and sleep with as many people as possible"? People who want those things usually get a divorce, not murder their child. I'm 100% sure I could fuck as many people as I wanted and still keep my daughter alive. If he was running some kiddie porn ring, it would seem as though he'd need more kids, not less, right?

    I'm sure there is more to this than what I read (quickly), but regardless, the death of an innocent little baby is just too much to read before noon.
     
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    Trudeau seems like the Prime Minister of virtue signaling. Whatever way the progressive wind blows, he's on board no matter how silly the cause. Asking as a non-Canadian, is he considered a joke up there?
     
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    After the Marcus Fiesel case in Cincinnati I can't discount any prosecution's wild theories of motive. People can be fucked up.
     
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    See, this is why I avoid real news. Jesus, didn't they realize the state would stop giving them money to foster a child when they fucking killed the child??? They don't get the child's life insurance or some sort of grievance fund.

    I used to work with kids that had really, really shitty parents (they didn't get to hang out with me unless the state said so), and most just wanted their kid(s) to get an ADD/ADHD diagnosis. Any mental health diagnosis earned them $331/mo in SSI and another $200-500 in "special needs assistance" funding, but the street value of Ritalin was way higher than those shitty depression meds.
     
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    I wouldn't say "a joke." I mean, yes, there are people who hate him with a passion and dismiss him out of hand; just like any politician.

    A big chunk of the country was really tired of Stephen Harper. His policies and his character really wore thin at the end. As an example...there was never a State Dinner between Canada and the US when he was Prime Minister. How the fuck is that possible? Possibly the world's closest allies, with the world's longest undefended border and a multitude of cultural overlap, and for something like 16 years our heads of state only saw each other at world summits in passing. Inexcusable. So, Trudeau is a breath of fresh air in that regard.

    The people that like him seem blind to his faults, which is not the same as him being a joke. They don't notice that he's never held a job, or that he's the king of PR stunts, or that his family has an extremely questionable history of governing this country. Twelve years under the conservative fist made people pretty open to something different.

    He'll eventually fuck up bad enough that it triggers an election and the balance changes. We have a good system (knock on wood) for things not getting too polarized here.
     
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    Just like some people are blinded by his faults, a number are blinded by his achievements.

    https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/

    Personally, I think the guy is doing all right. He's doing much more for the country than Harper ever did... Harper is our "Establishment" guy, who was all for TPP, and a whole bunch of other "pro big corporation" policies... gutting science research, fucking up the environment, naming everything after himself ("The Harper Government", not "The Canadian Government").

    In the end, he won by mobilizing the young voter. He appealed to them, and basically ran on a platform of "don't let the old fucks decide your future". Something very similar to what Sanders did, only Justin pulled it off.

    As it sits right now, I'm fairly impressed with how he's doing, and see no reason to shit on him.

    Sure, his Castro sentiment is a bit "off", but only because his family (as the former Prime Minister of Canada) had a different relationship with Castro than most people who are yelling on social media.

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    That's him as a kid.

    I don't know enough about Castro to call Trudeau the anti-christ for expressing his condolences, rather than "good, burn in hell you hitler-wannabe"... but I really don't think it's as big a deal as the media is making it out to be.
     
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    I already like him far more than I ever liked Harper. Because during his extended stay tried to mild the country in his opinions. It was Harper's Canada. Harper's government. Harper's Conservatives. Nobody even in his own majority seemed to have a say but him. Meanwhile all this bullshit happening under his nose in the senate. I felt like he should wear guerrilla fatigues, sunglasses and ride around in the back of open-top jeeps.

    What Trudeau is doing for the natives alone is worth great admiration. Down in the states they aren't hearing the horrors that went on in these schools up here years ago and many natives -- especially girls have gone missing and were never found. He's the first leader truly stepping in about this. And using the aligned Canadian media to his advantage he made sure to give it full -scale coverage in all news.

    I wonder how much of a shadow his dad casts on him. The bird-flipping intellectual who used to tell Reagan to go fuck himself while banging Kim Cattrall in her prime. He was also considered one of our best PM's. Yeah. Big fucking shoes.
     
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    Would you mind elaborating a little on this system? Asking for a friend who's embarrassingly not in the know about Canadian government/politics.
     
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    I'm going to guess it's a parliamentary system where getting 46% of the vote doesn't give you total power over the entire government.
     
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    I think it's partly because we have 3 major parties, not two, and we don't have a media that is heavily vested in seeing one side win.

    We don't have CNN or Fox or CNBC shoving a candidate down our throats 24x7, forcing us to pick a side. I cannot tell you just how much of a difference that makes.

    Right now your media has made your elections and politics a 24x7 thing, ALL THE TIME. Doesn't matter if it's an election year or not... it's all politics, all the time. Pundits everywhere, creating scandals where there aren't really any.

    In Canada, it generally takes a pretty big deal for something political to hit the news... like some of the shit in the Senate that Crown was alluding to earlier.
     
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    The other thing is we don't have as many, if any, polarizing issues in Canada. We've had public health care for 50 plus years, gay marriage has been legal for almost 15 years and no one has ever argued against abortion for a very long time. So when issues that involve life and death are already decided, the political atmosphere tends to be more tame and non-partisan.
     
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    Agreed.

    I also get the sense that we have way less religion in our politics.
     
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    I wish we had less in ours.
    I'm all for people religulosity'ing...but leave me out of it.