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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. toytoy88

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    Part of it is, like Oden said, gun control. Chicago has every gun law people start screaming for as soon as there is a shooting. It obviously doesn't work.

    The other part is, in 2016 a person was shot on average every 2 hours in Chicago, they had more murders then NYC and LA combined, and the total murders in the city rose by 46%. Adding almost 50% more murders to your city could be an anomaly if you only have single digits in a given year...when you already have 400+, it's not an anomaly, it's a huge problem.
     
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    I'm not particularly gung-ho about gun control myself, but it's kind of a false test when you can't control the flow of guns into the city. Gun control on a municipal of even regional basis is basically just outlawing the open brandishing of weapons; the weapons themselves can still be easily acquired and transported in from just a few miles away.
     
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    The point that the municipalities these guns are flowing in from have gun crime rates at a fraction of Chicago doesn't set off any flags that it might not be an outside issue?
     
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    That's a separate question from the efficacy of gun control however.
     
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    There's going by be a video hitting the news soon that's going to be one of the sickest things you'll ever see.

    Social media is throwing around the usual accusations, but it's what appears to be a young man getting tortured on Facebook live by people screaming "Fuck Trump".

    ...like, ACTUALLY torturing him. It's really REALLY sick. I can't vouch for the authenticity but Chicago police says they've arrested four people for it.
     
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    If that's not a hate crime, then hate crimes no longer exist.

    Sick, sick, sick. I hope they get fucked with knives.
     
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    For reason LiveLeak won't embed, so here's the link to the video.

    I'll be honest, I couldn't make it through the whole thing. And at this point it takes a lot to make me turn away or turn something off. Which basically means scat porn and dixie's hairy pussy pictures.
     
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    You don't win by attacking the other side. You win from creating more of your own. Nobody who isn't born a psychopath will support the action in that video. Go on Twitter and you'll see dozens of posts plainly saying things like "Typical behaviour from the Left...."

    ...no. That isn't typical behaviour for ANY human being, that's why even NBC news is barely covering it. People like these aren't "liberals", they're the Horseshoe Effect or religious nutbags: the Regressives. The ones who silence, blackmail and bully anybody who doesn't confirm EXACTLY with whatever right side of history they're on.

    There have been at least TWENTY-TWO debunked, fake hate crimes that made MSM news yet were often perpetrated by the people who reported them. This video is just a whole clusterfuck of epic proportion that will steam Trump's supporters which of course wires HIM up. Can't wait for his 3am drunk tweets over this.
     
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    It sounds like the guy was a special needs guy as well.

    It's going to be very interesting to see how the media handles this.

    Can you imagine if some white guys tortured a special needs black guy after Obama was elected?
     
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    We're not getting out of this without a civil war are we?
     
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    They'll ignore it. Just like the white guy that was beat by blacks and called a "Trump voter" on election day. It was quickly forgotten because it doesn't fit the MSM narrative.
     
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    I was about to post literally the exact same two things.

    Main focus for me being what the hell is the media going to do. There aren't guns. "Black guys + guns" is like katnip for them. But they are smoking marijuana. DARE is gonna use this like crazy, and it pisses me off. "This is your brain on drugs." No you fucking idiots, this is what happens when you have no brain and hate in your heart.

    I'm terrified some equally uneducated white guy is gonna try to get "revenge" for this with a copycat crime.

    Anyone who says this is anything but a hate crime can suck a dick.
     
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    This reminds me of the pizzagate incident. You have to be a psycho to do either of the things these people did, but when you take people who believe Hillary is running a child slavery prostitution ring you can see how that happens. If you take someone who believes Trump has close ties to hate groups and wants to drastically scale back civil rights for minorities you can see how that happens.

    People are obsessed with how fake news is shaping our society, but I don't think anyone really has a clue. You look at stuff like this though, and it's pretty damn hard to say it's not related.
     
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    The side that the military breaks for is the side that wins, period. Don't delude yourself into thinking johnny redneck's hunting rifle is going to mean a single thing.
     
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    Oh good. There's a second video. In this one they force the guy to crawl like a dog and drink out of a toilet.

    According to law enforcement this is just kids being stupid.

    Jesus Christ.
     
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    I'm only hoping that swaths of white people don't take this as an opportunity to do or say the racist shit they're thinking.

    It's important to remember that while an attack by a group of black men on a white guy is fucked up, it doesn't suddenly erase centuries of systemic oppression that black people deal with. White people are still way ahead on points.

    I'm going to assume that you mean this in general and not in this case. Something tells me that these particular dipshits aren't particularly politically active.
     
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    Don't worry, they still will. This is 10x the excuse they needed.

    Don't do that. That doesn't do anything to further dialogue or racial relations. Just cause one group had a systemic advantage doesn't need to enter this conversation in any way. There is no affirmative action for acting like a bigoted piece of shit.
     
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    10x seems light. Kidnapping and torture is at least two orders of magnitude greater than "Beyonce performed at the Superbowl."
     
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    Well, he shouted "Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck white people." It sure looks like a hate crime. The investigation on this just opened, and I couldn't understand half the shit they were saying so we'll see where it goes.

    Most people who believe in fake news or conspiracy theories don't act on those beliefs, but with mainstream networks now blaring misinformation and constant outrage politics to drive up their ratings, yeah I think it's having real world effects. Take the increase in attacks on PP after that 'they kill babies to sell their body parts' storyline cropped up. Or BLM riots in incidents that were open and shut cases because so many media outlets kept justifying it.

    I don't know how you draw the connections in a clear cut definitive explanation of media impact, but it's almost certainly related to a number of violent occurrences.

    I don't know what you mean by 'swaths of white people'. Are you talking about somebody specific? If you mean your run of the mill dip shit racist red neck, bitching about black criminals raping and attacking white people is something they do, like, every day.
     
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    The point I was trying to make was that this incident doesn't give racist white people the excuse to scream, "Black people are racist too!"

    There was once a former coworker of mine who once asked me if I knew kung fu. That type of white people.