Fantastic. A state police helicopter crashed while observing the protests/riots. It literally just happened. This is the live feed I'm watching: Also Spoiler: this picture is everything *edit* that fucking redneck is wearing cargo shorts with a mountain dew bottle in the pocket!! You literally do not get more southern stereotype than that.
It's fucking unreal we are seeing hoodless klan rallies right now. What the fuck are they seriously afraid of? What kind of oppression are they actually fighting against?
They have senseless hate for people that has been inbred into them for generations, and are acting out on it. "Reason" has nothing to do with it.
Well, it's good to know your unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in 17 years. Because that was relevant to the fucking news briefing Trump just gave.
If only the left were as passionate about the Islamic terrorism as they are about white nationalism. Its telling how they stumbled over each other to make sure they declare this one terrorism. In any event, anyone taking sides over this is a fucking idiot. The white nationalists are awful human beings and the Antifa dickheads got the response they've been desperately asking for. Horseshoe Theory is in full swing. The car video is absolutely horrific. I hope he gets charged with terrorism, murder and multiple counts of attempted murder.
Exactly this. Trump may be getting some shit for saying "on many sides", but that's the truth. The white inbred fuckwads went out looking to stir up some shit, and the other fuckheads showed up to give it to them. They're both to blame. And from what I can see, that car is a separate incident and those individuals should be dealt with severely, but separately.
That's what its starting to sound like. Possibly someone not aligned with either group, just another nut job. The information is just too unreliable at this point. CNN is completely losing its shit and is essentially blaming Trump for it, which is surely a productive approach for not inflaming rhetoric. Never waste a tragedy.
I just can't help but think that the outrage that will be created and manufactured over this will only make shit worse.
Well if anything it will give Antifa ammunition in that these people are actual fascists (for once) instead of just school administrations or campus speakers, driving supporters to them who were already tacitly in agreement with them, if not overtly. Which will solidify the white nationalists under their trajectory. Welcome to tiny a sliver of how the Middle East spun out of control. This is why it's so important to have a strong leader that won't play to either side or engage in opportunitism like both sides have done for so long.
The only people with my sympathy in this whole ordeal are the citizens and law enforcement of the town that had these clowns descend upon them. Fuck the Nazis for being Nazis and general assholes, fuck Antifa for showing up and making a bad situation worse. If the driver did that attack on purpose, execute him. As far as the people who got hit by the car, what did they expect? They went there to start shit and given protestors' penchant for blocking roads and traffic, I'm surprised it hasn't happened before. I find it ironic they were chanting "Who's streets? Our streets" when they got hit. No idiots, it's the car's street.
I can only take so much evil before I seek out humor. This might be old, but it is still hilarious, and relevant.
I cannot believe I didn't come to this conclusion myself. Yes, the problem here isn't the goddamned white supremacists chanting Nazi slogans to protest the removal of a traitor's statue. It's CNN's reporting of it. You're blaming the victims that were hit by a terrorist for protesting against fascists. Okay. Would you blame black people for being torn apart by police dogs for protesting against Jim Crow? Honestly, what's your benchmark for not blaming protesters for standing up for themselves and their rights as Americans? You realize that basically every civilized societal advancement came on the backs of people who had to fight and die for them, right? If by taking sides, you mean by being against white supremacists, then I guess I'm a fucking idiot. I cannot believe that someone who is as smart as you are is resorting to whataboutism. Instead, you castigate people brave enough to stand up against something as un-American as fascism. Y'all should be too ashamed of yourselves to call yourself an American.
Looks like motive is confirmed (at least generally): http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ld-hate-group-shield-attack-article-1.3407245
Can we bring back the firing squad? And by that I mean they do the "1-2-3-FIRE!" And then it's just all blanks then a sniper in the background is like jk fire!!!
It's either disingenuous or misinformed to conflate the counterprotesters as a whole with antifa protesters. Yes, they were there. But last night it was mostly students. Today it was students, church groups, BLM, and just regular people who weren't okay with a KKK/Neo Nazi rally carrying on without some kind of resistance, and then also antifa. Look at the photos of the car crash. That wasn't a crowd of antifa people. It always amazes me that people trip all over themselves to spout the "I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it" rhetoric when talking about Nazi rallies and the Westboro Baptist Church, but not only never bring that up when critiquing or even outright condemning other protests, but also will turn around within the same breath and say the people who got plowed into by a car while they were protesting kind of deserved it. Even if the counterprotesters were 100% antifa, that line of thinking is sociopathic regardless of what your opinion of their beliefs or tactics are.
Can you please do this in paragraphs? Like I'd love to respond to whatever your point is but the wall of text is kinda overwhelming.
That is a very normal sized paragraph containing less than 200 words. You have been reading posts that contain entire essays on North Korean foreign policy for days now, and yet have somehow managed to be able to read and discuss them without complaining about a wall of text. You got this. I believe in you.
I guess I have to explain it so even a teacher can understand. Taking sides in the larger issue, not just this particular event. You don't think that the events at Berkeley or Evergreen or other towns and colleges have emboldened radical right groups like what happened with Unite the Right at UVA? All of that was front and center in the media. There was always going to be an equal and opposite reaction and now it has delivered in the worst way possible. Hell, that fear was brought up when the Berkeley riots were going on. It doesn't take a clairvoyant to predict it. And I'm sure youll read that as a defense of their actions but it's quite the opposite. We have had multiple lively discussions on this board and I have a couple hundred posts in this thread and the other that provide insight into how I think about things. But if you really want believe I sympathize with neo-nazis, go for it. I try to extrapolate how an event fits into to a larger picture. This awful thing has now happened because fuses were lit, and I'm concerned that's going to get worse before it gets better. I just don't buy that this was all over a statue of Robert E Lee. My criticism was around of Donald Trump, not because he had a hand in causing it, but because he lacks the charisma and maturity to fix it. It's take a very special kind of leadership to do so. Another point is that it's a spectacular failure on behalf of the police to act accordingly. Campus police operate under the direction of the administration, why didn't they do something before this got out of hand? I hope that's investigated as well. It's easy to soap box about fascism when it's something 95% of everyone agrees with. It takes a bit more consideration to recognize why this really happened and why it will continue to occur. That's what interests me. The acts at UVA were dispicable, but just shaking our heads at it and having a counter-march isn't enough. But thanks for being brave. *Broken out so ROTN doesn't have an aneurysm trying read it.