Personally I don't want to ban all guns; even though I'm not a gun owner I've been considering dipping my toes in the water and getting this nice looking 10/22 that's at my local sporting goods store. But even if I never do buy a gun I don't want to have a blanket ban. Here's how I view the issue: 1. I think, the biggest underlying factor is the fact that we're a violent culture. There's a constant glorification of violence within our culture; I think it says something that network TV can show shootouts and massacres but if you show a single nipple or say the word "shit" the FCC is all over you. I think it's a positive feedback loop as well: The media glorifies and reinforces the glamour of violence, but the media does this because it's what we demand from our entertainment. And as a violent culture, in addition to violent media and entertainment, we also demand access to the tools of violence. 1a. The dangerous corollary to this is that part of the glorification of violence is wrapped up in ideas about masculinity. Because let's not sugarcoat it: The one thing pretty much all of these mass shootings have in common is that they've been committed by men. For all the hand-wringing about mental illness that each of these perpetrators may or may not have had, the commonality of their gender can't be denied. Considering there are lots of ideas that conflate being violent against others with being a "real man", I think we need to take a hard look at what we want masculinity to be. Personally I think toxic masculinity helps tip a lot of these guys who are already maladjusted toward violence. 2. In addition to our overall violent culture, the growing wealth inequality is making things worse. The connections between poverty, violence, and crime are well established. Reduce poverty and wealth inequality and crime and violence will go down, reducing gun violence as a part of that. Ultimately, I think our culture has a level of violence in our beliefs and attitudes that won't ever go away. But if we made got serious about reducing poverty and wealth-inequality, made mental health treatment more widely available and de-stigmatized, and also started addressing toxic masculinity, we'd see a big reduction in gun violence as a result, and it would be a reduction that didn't require banning guns either. Sounds like a win-win to me.
Surefire mag probably 60-100 round. I knew it was only a matter of time before some nut used a bumpfire stock.
Yeah I saw one of those at a gunshow a few years back and it gave me the heebie geebies. Here is a slidefire stock with a 60 rd surefire magazine. Relevant part starts at 2:30. Also worth noting is that in that picture -- and I'm assuming that is one of the guns used? -- there's a red dot sight rather than a scope. At that range, the red dot is covering up an entire person, if not multiple people, so he was clearly going for sheer destruction and more of a "hit what I can get."
Someone just sent me a crime scene photo of the perpetrator. I can tell by the carpet it is the same room. I would post it here but it is very graphic, he clearly committed suicide, probably with a 9mm or .380. If you want to see it PM me, I don't want to be responsible for having someone see this accidently or someone who shouldn't see it.
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The best definition of "assault rifle" I've heard is a semi-automatic rifle with automatic fire capabilities. So a military issued M-16 would be an assault rifle, while a civilian AR-15 would not. Personally, I think that bump stocks and trigger cranks should have never been legal. Most people buy them for the novelty of automatic fire, but there are enough nutjobs in the world where I've always been nervous about them.
fify It was a matter of time. I've always been worried this would happen. Im just waiting for someone to live stream a mass shooting with a go pro mounted on the gun. Michael Moore will get his Emmet Till moment eventually.
This could have been it under the right circumstances. No one likes to film shit like a drunken redneck. Put a drunken redneck at a concert and there's a 1000% chance he or she is videoing. So take a few thousand of those, conservative estimate, then another few thousand who were just country music fans and there for the music rather than the party, and I'm honestly surprised at the lack of footage that has made its way out so far. Regarding what you said about someone live streaming a mass shooting... yeah, I'm worried about that too. REAL worried. Because you know there are people watching this, seeing that the high water mark has been set for deadliest mass shooting, and taking it as a challenge.
That's great in theory, but what about in practice? We haven't had much success in banning anything in the U.S. Why would this be different? After we ban them, what is the mechanism we use to remove them from the people? I own one of those weapons that would be banned. What is the justification for confiscating a weapon that has never been used in a crime and by all indications never will be?
That bar is set pretty high. He had 22,000 targets, thousands of rounds of ammo, "fully" automatic weapons, tactical advantage and it took the police 72 mins from first shots to breaching his door. Maybe my mind isn't twisted enough, but I can't see how someone is going to "beat" that. Goodyear blimp over an NFL game maybe?
Worth noting that in that case the elevation would be more of a problem than the range. No way he was taking serious aim at anything... he was pointing and shooting in a rough manner... doubt he could have hit a specific target at all, so red dot or iron sights would have been equally as effective.
Maybe I am misunderstanding how he was firing, but I have bumpfired an AR before and your aim is shit. He was spraying for numbers, period.
Get a bumpfire stock, couple of hundred round drum magazine and walk up to any powerhouse college football stadium on a Saturday. I was just at Michigan's stadium and once you get to the gaits it was thousands packed into a realitively small space. You start spraying into that you don't need an hour to do much more damage. Im frankly surprised terrorist haven't tried something like this given our nations love for football and the devastating effect it'd have on our collective psyche. It's also on my list of shit bound to happen eventually in this fucked up world.
Spray and pray. Unless you are specifically trained and practice heavily, a 350 ft drop is gonna throw anyone off over any distance. Hell I’d have hard enough a time hitting something at 4-500 yards flat, never mind that elevation. And I consider myself a good shot. Which is why I thought it was funny when the MSM was talking about his ability accuracy with one of the scoped rifles. Yeah not quite.