Look at this guy they just caught in TN. He'd need more ammo, but he was loaded up. "After placing him in handcuffs, an inventory of the car revealed why he may not have wanted to be apprehended. Inside deputies said they found a loaded .357 magnum, a loaded .45 semi auto, a full auto AR rifle in .223 caliber, a full auto AR rifle in .308 caliber, over 900 rounds of ammunition and survival equipment. Neither of the full auto rifles were registered and the serial numbers were gone."
I'm more worried about a chemical attack in a stadium. Release nerve case near the air intake for the AC units and everyone in the place is fucked. If criminals can figure out how to build bombs, they can figure out how to make chemical weapons if they haven't already. It honestly surprises me that your scenario hasn't already occurred in a soccer stadium in like South America or England or southern Africa. They get so crazy (the soccer fans I mean), if it hit the news tomorrow that a lunatic sprayed the entire opposing fan section with hot lead it wouldn't surprise me.
Is it so difficult to drive the speed limit while your license is suspended and your car is dressed in guns? Perp stupidity and a cop doing his normal job may have worked in preventing yet another horror here.
The dude left guns everywhere in the motel room. Spoiler: Not graphic, but does show part of his body
Jesus look at those stacks of magazines in the middle picture you posted! I count 14. Those surefire mags hold either 60 or 100 rounds, though it looks like they're the 100 rd ones. So assuming they're full, you're talking 840 or 1400 rds. Of just unused ammo. In just one location. And it's reasonable to assume that there were multiple stacks of ammo throughout the place. In the bottom picture, those two couches are pushed together back into the room like he was making a sniper's hide, where he's shooting from deep inside the room rather than at the window. It maximizes his view of the target while limiting his exposure. There would basically have to be a police or military sniper in the concert area if they were to take him out, other than via breaching the door which they did well after he had killed himself Fucker was ready for war. 9 minutes of shooting, I wonder what made him stop?
Since they haven't given us a timeline, I'm wondering if that was about the time he shot the security guard? Possibly he thought it was SWAT outside his door and either didn't have the balls to go toe to toe with them or didn't want to get wounded and taken alive.
On the surface, rather effective, if your criteria is eliminating specific weapons from society. If your criteria is reducing crime, then not very effective at all. If your criteria is preventing them from being used to gun down hundreds of people at a concert in Las Vegas, then the effectiveness is zero. You didn't bother to address any of my other points.
I found the security guard thing interesting. With all those fully automatic weapons, how does a guy at the door only get shot once in the leg? Either the guard was in a concealed position, in which case a leg is a pretty easy thing to hide, or he was just standing there at the door, in which case if the fucker was shooting through the door how the hell does he miss everything but his leg?
And of course there's always the problem of getting evidence of the effectiveness of something when the goal is for relatively rare incidents to not happen. Did the ban stop some other psycho from doing the same thing because he couldn't get his hand on a full-auto weapon and didn't think to modify one? How can we ever know?
I think only a complete dumb ass would stand full on to a door when he hears full auto fire coming from the other side. It's also possible he'd picked up the .308 by that time. A former Marine a couple of floors down from him said that he went from full auto to sniper type fire at some point.
Very possible. One of my friend's daughters got shrapnel in her lungs during the attack. Sad thing is there isn't anything they can do about it.
Maybe I'm missing something, but did the Las Vegas shooter use guns that were manufactured as fully automatic or did he modify semi-automatic rifles to make them fire faster?
But whenever a crime like this happens so many people rush to say "We have to do something." I'm fine with doing something, but let's do something effective. The laws in place obviously did not prevent the Las Vegas crime. Does it make a difference? One would be legal to possess, the other would be illegal. Neither is legal to use in the manner he did. Again, like in every other gun discussion we've had before, nobody has suggested any legislative changes that might prevent any of these crimes from happening.
They were semiauto with an aftermarket stock that essentially makes it fully auto. The stock isn’t illegal...yet.
I think the only thing mentioned earlier was that we either accept these types of things happening from time to time or conduct a full on confiscation. With 400 million guns in this country, the cats out of the bag. And a confiscation would most likely result in a civil war.