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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. CharlesJohnson

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    Eh. It's a justified shooting, but it shouldn't have happened. Another incident of cops being woefully undertrained to deal with the mentally damaged. Even the AOL article says he was shot not on the balcony, but because of the damn spoon. In his own damn home. There are nurses, doctors, and normal families dealing with this shit every day, but the cop trained to disarm suspects blasted the guy in a matter of minutes. Come on, this crap irks me.
     
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    I dunno. If I have a gun and I'm dealing with someone who is having a violent outburst and attacked me, who has already been tazed to no effect and is coming at me to attack me again...yeah, I think I'm going to shoot him too.
     
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    Maybe at some point we can look at mental illness, public health initiatives and law enforcement as a whole. Perhaps we can supply a few less Bradley fighting vehicles to suburban SWAT teams, cut some bullsshit "WAR ON DRUGS FUNDS" and afford real mental health services.....and maybe, just maybe, affect some real change in this country.
     
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    Head over to the finance thread if you want to see how godlike I can be about market calls. So good. Sort of makes up for the absolute ass fucking I took on a fairly large position a few months ago. Check that, it actually doesn't.
     
  5. Robbie Clark

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    People should stop calling the cops for help, especially with the mentally handicapped. Maybe it doesn't apply in this case, but it's a good general rule. Only call the cops when someone has committed a crime against you that will land them in prison.
     
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    Uhm.... isn't that how they're supposed to be used?
     
  7. Robbie Clark

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    Of course, but I've read many stories of people calling police for assistance and it ending in violence. I don't even think police should be called for non-violent crimes at all. Police in the US do not seem to be well trained in de-escalation.
     
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    But look at the other side: if the person they're called in to help sees that the police officer has a gun and they don't, they're going to up the anti. Especially if they're "crazy"/inebriated.

    I doubt a cop is gonna respond to a call thinking "can't wait to shoot this fucker," especially knowing the degree of scrutiny they'll face. There's gonna be a small percentage of bad apples in any barrel, but don't let the level of media attention on those bad apples skew your view as to the percentages of good vs bad.
     
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    This is super fucked up so I'll spoiler it. You probably don't wanna go look at this page. But the shooter filmed it and put it on his Twitter and Facebook.

    Edit: Twitter took it down already. Probably for the best.

    Edit 2: I guess this guy was mad at the girl and guy he killed. Here's what was on his Twitter.

    He posted that stuff right before posting the videos.
     
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    Wow. That is some next level shit.

    Reports that it is a disgruntled employee. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34062118

    Also like how they basically said not to worry, it's not a terrorist, just some regular American who lost his shit. Nothing to see here.
     
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    Hold on, there was a first person video of the shooting? Holy hell.

    I saw the news footage and thats sickening enough cause you see the shooter walking through the shot after the camera falls when the cameraman was shot. Good god...
     
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    Just watched the first person video which is still on youtube. Im not linking it here, but someone else can if they really want to. Its pretty upsetting. The guy just stands there off to the side with the gun pointed at them for a few seconds, then starts firing. Its fucked up.
     
  14. Robbie Clark

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    What's really disturbing to me is he's standing there for about 30 seconds unnoticed. Even pointing the gun at the girl then lowering it once. Then a few seconds later he whispers "Bitch." and starts shooting. Looked like they were just in the zone doing the little story completely oblivious.
     
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    That is messed up. He had it pointed at her for a few seconds, one would think that you would catch that out of your peripheral vision. And how the fuck she run away from being shot point blank multiple times. It looked like he missed the first few shots.
     
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    Jesus Christ.
     
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    I thought he shot the cameraman first which is why the news camera got dropped. Its almost like he wasn't completely sure he wanted to shoot her. Fucking hell, that is so fucked.
     
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    Don't you think that's a good thing? CNN tries their best to make their front page read like a thriller novel, I'm all for less sensationalist reporting.
     
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    The reports are saying the guy was distraught over losing his job two years ago. Apparently he would have some explosively angry outbursts over perceived (imagined or not) things people said and was eventually fired for it. Was escorted out of the building by police and everything. What a fucking nutcase.