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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Aetius

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    My doc's mom got sick, and she had to reduce her hours, which meant cutting about half her patients (me included). I was told the practice would contact me about getting set up with a new doc. Later that same week my prescribin'-doc got fired or something; all I ever got was an appointment cancellation with a "he is no longer a provider here" note. I ran out of meds, went through withdrawal, and got a call four months later from the practice trying to set me up with a new set of docs. You didn't hear from a suicidal patient for four months and weren't at all concerned that maybe you had lost one in an oopsie? Technically they still haven't heard from me as I never called them back, and they don't seem to have done anything other than shrug their shoulders. I say all this as someone with very solid private insurance from my employer, who can afford what is regarded as "good" care. How we expect people in poverty with far more debilitating illnesses to get help is laughable.
     
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    Bolded just so I hope people read that.

    And there is certainly a responsibility on the families. All this "but he was such a good guy!!" Yeah, no. You know your family better than anyone. Worst case is you report them and the authorities don't find cause to take their guns, send them for mental health care, etc.

    Not sure if everyone remembers the big lawsuit against Bushmaster after Sandy Hook. Right idea, wrong person. You should ABSOLUTELY be held civilly and criminally responsible for what happens with your guns.
     
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    I know there's this whole problem with the media making these shooters famous, but the more they repeat their moniker for this one, the more I feel like it's actually helping prevent more of these shootings.

    "Waffle House Shooter."

    Like ok asshole, now we're gonna mock your ass.
     
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    There’s another big complication: most people don’t want to work with the mentally ill. For people wanting to work in the medical field, working along side people with unpredictable behaviour serves up a big deterrent. Mental health workers get assaulted a LOT. My wife was a home care nurse when I met her, I watched a 300 pound autistic teenager headbutt her flush on the face because a chirping bird set him off. He grabbed a clump of her hair and just let her have it. It was not pretty. And I to stand there and watch because wasn’t allowed to interfere, because great care has to be taken with this giant, violent butterball. You really, REALLY have to want to help people to work in this insanely vast and complex field.
     
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    Something tells me most of these decent practices just have shit administration because they are flush with cash from insurance based payments their need for decent customer service is nill. I go to the top facility in my area for therapy and prescription needs. They fuck up billing so much it boggles my mind. They also tried instituting a mandatory annual fee that wasn’t deferrable through insurance. Threatening to refer you off to a different facility if you couldn’t pay up. After swift backlash to this seemingly uncaring demand they apologized and refunded money to everyone. I don’t know who the fuck would think that was a good idea.

    Low cost community centers have to be jungles.
     
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    At least he beat the Waffle House High Score...
     
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    Well, that is one way to thin out the number of patients if the practice is overloaded.

    Kidding, of course. I'm sorry you were suicidal, and hope you've gotten the help you need since then.
     
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    Nope, but that's why you make a high salary and live like a peasant; so you have a war chest available when your ability to do your job bottoms out and you have to take a leave.
     
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    There’s another big complication: most people don’t want to work with the mentally ill. For people wanting to work in the medical field, working along side people with unpredictable behaviour serves up a big deterrent. Mental health workers get assaulted a LOT. My wife was a home care nurse when I met her, I watched a 300 pound autistic teenager headbutt her flush on the face because a chirping bird set him off. He grabbed a clump of her hair and just let her have it. It was not pretty. And I to stand there and watch because wasn’t allowed to interfere, because great care has to be taken with this giant, violent butterball. You really, REALLY have to want to help people to work in this insanely vast and complex field.
     
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    I hope they follow up with every one of those death threats and charge them accordingly.

    I hate "social" media... and the "news".
     
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    And now Toronto police have tweeted that they incorrectly spelled the name in their press conference, and it's actually Alek. What a shitshow.
     
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    "Better to be first than to be right... we can always send out a correction later..."
     
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    After the death threats.
     
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    The California secession idea is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard, and that includes everything in the last 24 months. What an inane overreaction to not getting your way in an election. Although it will never come to fruition since Californians are generally against it by an enormous margin, the fact that anyone thinks this is a good idea is reason enough for involuntary commitment to a mental institution.

    Say the vote passes. Then what? The Sovereign Nation of California is going to raise an army? Issue passports? Negotiate trade agreements with the US? How would they feed 40 million people when their food and water comes from out of state? What if all that is heavily taxed? What happens to all the cities and towns that heavily rely on federal funding? The list of what-ifs is endless. What a bunch of retards.
     
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    All of this is hard to say because there's so many insurmountable political hurdles before you get to these questions, but the notion that California is some helpless welfare state propped up by the rest of the country is a conservative fantasy. California is the largest producer of food in the United States, and literally produces the entire national output of some crops. Unless the rest of the country wants to eat three square meals of cornbread with a side of corn on the cob each day, they'll trade midwestern grain for California produce. Same thing with federal funding; you just divert the federal taxes that Californians pay to the state coffers. Most of the water doesn't come from out of state, its just redirected within the state (generally from NorCal to SoCal), and even the "out of state" water is only so in the sense that a river naturally flows into California from elsewhere.

    A friendly arrangement between the US and California is the most logical answer for both sides in the case of secession, but if that's your priority, the most logical answer of all is not to split up in the first place, so the whole question is kind of pointless. If the US and California split, both sides lose significantly.
     
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    Now you know what its like to live with Quebec.
     
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    Except a good chunk of Quebec actually wants to do it, while Calexit is only a thing because California's ballot initiative system means we have to humor a bunch of stupid ideas every election cycle before shooting them down.