Broken Window relies more on ticketing and fines for petty crimes and not jail time, mostly civil infractions. The pro active policing in this Chicago story isn't close to broken window policing. While targeted policing of specific crimes can reduce said crimes, the police in this instance went far beyond that by trying to sweep up criminality in a different area. It's misdirected and they should have set up a sting within the train yards where the original crimes happened focusing on the specific perpetrators. If the actual sting didn't sweep these criminals up, then they did nothing to reduce the train yard robberies,
I'll be honest, I really couldn't give less of a shit if these people trust the police, or what they think about anything else. The reason these neighborhoods are shitholes is because the people there fucking suck. It's not because of mean white people, the oh so bad cops, or anything else. It's because of the people that live there. That's the problem with the solutions people keep proposing. All of the remedies assume the people there are good hard working people just in a bad situation. They're not, they're really shitty people and most of them are probably just going to fuck up anything implemented to help them. If you think these people are really great, I'll tell you what - try hanging out in the ghetto for a couple months and let me know if you hold onto that conclusion. I've never been in the warzone level of hood that some areas of Chicago are, but I lived in a crappy neighborhood for a little while after I graduated college because my job sucked, and unsurprisingly most of the people who lived there were complete shit trash. They're stuck there indefinitely because they're too fucked up to hold down a job for even a week. I don't get why it is these days that whenever something is a problem people insist on blaming everyone except the people responsible for it.
I agree with you on that. But I think the point some people are making is that the reason they are shitty and in that situation may be because of some prior (or even current) discriminatory policies (blockbusting, redlining, etc.). A lot of that is true. However, back to your point, it doesnt change the fact that people are still ultimately responsible for their behavior and the communities they currently live in. But I think a contextual understanding is an important aspect to consider when trying to solve the problem.
I'm not sure why people aren't tapping you for policy advice. I mean you "lived in a crappy neighborhood for a little while after college." With that kind of anecdotal expertise, you're just the man to put our new "People Suck, Let's Never Try to Improve Anything" policy into place. I just hope you remember us when you're accepting your awards.
Are you ever going to add anything to the conversation or are you just always going to post stupid shit like this?
I just love how every fucking time you're asked for any kind of concrete or specific recommendations to make shit better, you don't have any. And yet you're the first person to shit on others who do try and offer solutions. "We need a dialogue" isn't a solution... it's a stall tactic. We're past that now... what comes next?
It’s real ballsy to try and be one of the faces of Weinstein justice while simultaneously crafting your own defense.
Not saying this in an accusatory way because I catch myself doing the same a lot but your post kind of sits on the fence and makes both sides of the argument. How can you say that there were historical and still current discriminatory practices that are begin a self perpetuating (that’s probably the wrong word) cycle and at the same time say hey you need to do better and fix the situation you’re in that “we” created and are still making it difficult for you to get out of. But also we are going to use the problems (crime rates etc..) in your community to say it’s your fault you can’t get out of the situation.
I wonder if celebs will treat this fairly, or will they hypocritically own themselves knowing she was a #metoo activist. Welp...
Both of those “sides” are incomplete. It’s more complicated than “It’s because of racism” and sticking your head in the sand on one hand, and “inner city blacks need to figure their shit out” on the other. Historical issues lead to the present, and pretending that socioeconomic based on that history don’t play a hand in the choices people make is cheating everyone out of resolving it. At the same time, people may not be aware of choices they can make based on breakdown of familiar units, poor educational resources, etc. So yeah, crime is still a personal choice. But without lighting pathways for other choices, how can they be made? I also don’t fault the cops for enforcing the law. That’s their job. Should they not just because of other economic/social/racial issues at play? No. That’s not their job to decide that. They should arrest people for blatant theft. These issues require everyone work to fix it, not folding arms and demanding that the other “side” take care of it.
It's also not a "one or the other" thing... there are long term, generational, environmental fixes that need to happen that won't show results for years (but will start to point the super-tanker in a new direction), as well as immediate things that can be done at the individual level. If you (hypothetically) have a generation of people being raised that are assholes, and playing the victim card, I kind of think that they are set in their ways... their behaviour is pretty well ingrained. But if you get them young, teach them a better way, let that good behaviour and better environment be what is ingrained in them, then you have a better shot at long term, permanent fixes. I really think that it all starts from the family unit. Make that strong, practice and teach good morals and ethics, and it will go far.
I didn't say anything about a dialogue. I'm just not going to pretend to be too stupid to notice obvious dog whistles like "it's not because of mean white people." He literally used the term "these people." If you think that that kind of post is some jumping off point to an enlightened discussion of police behavior in poor black communities, we must have been on different internets. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I mean, yeah it's on the wrong side of 18, but a 17 year old getting a hummer could be legitimately consensual... ok never mind.
She also got on top and rode him like a pony. As noted, she first met the kid when he was 7. They starred together in a movie in which she played his mother. Please tell me Bourdain didn't kill himself over her for fucks sake.