Because in America if they don't list any racial information, it is because they're white, because that's the default. Not because of some straight forward journalism that deserves praise. Same line of thinking in regards to the nationality naming conventions here. White people in America are Americans. Everyone else needs a hyphen, even though they're as native to the land as white people. When it comes to the whole Kim Davis thing, this video is getting a TON of play.
So does this mean that employers are now allowed to ask about religion when hiring? Oh, you're Muslim and can't serve alcohol? Then you can't be hired as a flight attendant who's job it is to serve alcohol. Oh, you're Christian and don't believe in gay marriage? Then you can't be hired to be the person who has to hand out marriage certificates.
Really? I'll be damned! My bad, I should have tossed in there "99% of the time" as a cheap out. Did they not mention that in the article because he's a minor? Are you looking at another source? Oh, clicked through, saw that part. Then in that case Nett's first comment doesn't make any sense, the second part was just an update.
The whole point I was making is that it's a nice change to see this particular news item not focus on the race of the people involved, and rather just stick to the germane facts. It IS out of the ordinary, and refreshingly so, which is why I mentioned it.
Well regardless of race, this story doesn't have anything to debate. The 17 year old just rolled up to the police officer and started shooting. That's some bullshit. Especially in Vegas, as a police officer you're just supposed to deal with drunks and pickpockets. Also, can someone explain to me the whole "trial as an adult" thing. Because my entire life I thought I wasn't an adult until 18. How the hell does that work? How does it make sense? I can't buy porn, cigarettes, or rent a whole bunch of shit until 18. So much shit is based on that, and a crime somehow necessitates that I'm adult capable? I want that to apply to other shit as well.
I like the part too where she is on her 4th marriage. So is sanctity of marriage just meaning not gay now? I guess she didn't like this part from the bible either: Or maybe she's upset no one denied her divorce in the name of religious freedom. I really don't think the gay marriage issue is about religion, it's just the easiest thing to hide behind.
From what I've heard, she had her come to Jesus moment during her fourth marriage. So she herself would tell you she's been a naughty girl. But that is in the past, she's repented (get out of jail free card), and of course this marriage will stick. Also, she can't be fired because she was elected into this position (like her mother before her and her son is one of the deputy clerks). She can be ousted, but it will take months and in the meanwhile we get to deal with all this nonsense for as long as the media froths over it. I cope by reading the @nexttokimdavis twitter. Edit: bahahahaha http://abcnews.go.com/beta/Entertainment/survivor-happy-eye-tiger-kim-davis-rally/story?id=33625236
I've read an article that also states the staff there will ignore her if she does try to interfere... they're handing out marriage licenses whether she likes it or not. Good on them.
"I will keep issuing marriage licenses even if ordered by my boss to stop." Refreshing to hear, hopefully it's not lip service. You would have thought watching that release rally that she didn't completely and totally lose. No moral victory OR actual victory, it's amazing the reality that stupid people can create in their own heads.
That's why I'm doing my best to just ignore this whole story and not engage it. These people have already lost. This is just a tiny blip, if that, on the history of our country. In 50 years very few people will remember or care about this dumb lady. Let them have their death rattle, because that's what this is.
Personally I could give a rat's ass if gays get married, it's none of my damn business. However, I do somewhat admire this woman for standing up for her religious convictions. I don't agree with them, but she apparently believes very strongly in them. My grandfather was a minister and one of my cousins had asked him to perform his wedding ceremony. Grandad was thrilled....he'd never preformed the ceremony for any of his descendants.Suddenly, there was no wedding. And no word on what the fuck happened. I finally asked my grandmother why the wedding was not happening and she told me "Because that woman wouldn't renounce that cult she belongs to." The girl was a Mormon. Narrow-minded? Certainly. But my grandfather was really looking forward to performing the wedding, but his religious convictions wouldn't allow him to. Also, if y'all noticed....Rowan county (Incidentally my grandfather's name was Rowan) has a population of less then 24K. I really doubt there was a long line of local residents lining up for a gay marriage license. I'd wager that every single one issued were to people from out of the area who went there specifically to be offended and seek vengeance. Who the fuck wants to get married in Rowan County Kentucky if you're not from there? Which as far as I'm concerned makes them assholes. Who cares if some shit hole in the Bible Belt won't issue you a license? Just don't go there. It takes more fucking effort to be an asshole then not be one, and these folks went out of their way for God only knows what reason.
Yeah, because sit ins at segregated businesses and boycotting did fuck all. What a bunch of assholes, right? Why can't these queers just go some place else that will take their business instead of operating under the assumption that people will actually treat them like people instead of the unnatural heathens that they are? Edit: Seriously though, you're asking a subset of people to go to their own segregated community for goods and services. Never mind the fact that that's discriminatory, why should gay people not be allowed to participate in society on the same level as everybody else? Has it ever occurred to you that you can walk into literally any bakery, buy a wedding cake and no one would give it a shit? Whereas a gay person has to worry if the place will serve them because of the gender of the person they're in love with. It's bullshit.
So, it's not ok to discriminate against sexual preference, but it is ok to discriminate based on religious convictions you disagree with? Cool.
Just because all discrimination isn't reported doesn't mean it's small and scattered. Discrimination against gays is absolutely widespread, systematic and violent. Shit, even in the city of Seattle, one of the most gay friendly cities in the country, regularly sees gays getting the shit kicked out of them by drunken frat boys. Dismissing discrimination because you think a gay person is being an asshole for trying to buy a cake doesn't fix the overall issue. The issue here is that a lot of people are made uncomfortable by a gays loudly pointing and yelling that they're being discriminated against. Their solution isn't to stop the discrimination. It's "Let's tell them they're being loud assholes and tell them to go find some other business that will take their money." Let's do a little thought experiment. Say you're a diehard Minnesota Vikings fan. You bleed purple, as it were. Unfortunately, you live in Green Bay. Everybody knows you as that "Vikings guy" and they point and whisper. One day, a bunch of dudes stumble out of a bar, see you in your Vikings jersey, and beat the piss out of you. You are afraid to leave your apartment and getting a job is tough. But eventually, you do. Then you discover a small neighborhood with other Viking fans in Green Bay and move there. You meet another Vikings fan and the sparks fly. A couple of years later, you two decide to get married and want to have a wedding. Unfortunately, the best bakery in Green Bay refuses to do business with you because he'd have to answer to Vince Lombardi in the afterlife and asks how he'd explain to his kids what those weird Vikings fans want to do. But, if you really want a cake, you can go to the 9th best bakery that's located in Vikingtown. How would you feel about that? When the religious conviction is itself discriminatory, absolutely. Sharia law, for example, can go fuck itself. And I'm pretty sure Jesus said something about loving thy neighbor and not judging people.
Who is telling anyone they can't express their civil right to practice? The government did not shut down any bigoted business owner. The public who chose not to patronize bigots did. Big difference. And most of those businesses shut down from public outrage got some swell crowd funded parting gifts. Those people are still free to say what they please. But, yes, it is ok for the public to discriminate. Far as I know it is not even illegal for a business owner to do so. No one is forcing anyone to be gay. A gay person's presence does not preclude your right to practice or vice versa. That owner is however forcing me to be a proxy christian in exchange for me giving him money. Still not illegal. Forcing a gay man out of a business is the exact same as refusing service to an interracial couple, black person, Asian, Irish, Italian, or Jew (all of which have seen just as much discrimination in this country's history). It's time to stop with this nonsense. You want to be the guy who discriminates on the block, have fun going out of business. Money is still green and let us not get into the righteous discussion of who's hands touched it.