And the man killed was a prolific guns’ rights activist AND police brutality protestor. That has so much bad butterfly effect written all over it.
Reporter at the local ABC affiliate is reporting that Austin PD is saying there were two shooters, and the dead man with the AK is not one of them. Sounds like he never fired his gun at all. Still awaiting further confirmation.
They are saying he was pushing his wheelchair-bound wife at the time NOW.... I don’t know how much more TV-movie this can get so I say people should try and sit on this because Jesus Christ this is starting to sound like a parody of salt rubbed into the wound of a powder keg of everything bad right now: cars being revved at crowds, exchanged gunplay, innocent bystanders.... bad bad bad.
I don't know it was an intentional or just came about organically, but there's a sick genius in picking the car as a weapon of choice. It is by every definition an incredibly deadly machine, but American culture is so identified with the car that we literally change psychology when driving one or thinking about one. People almost never get in trouble for things they do in a car; it's all labeled an "accident." If you take a look at how people talk about cyclists who have been hit by cars, its immediately apparent that you can straight up murder someone with a car and most people will either excuse it, or worse, fetishize the murder solely because a car was used to do it.
I'm always curious at what point do people actually exercise their 2nd Amendment rights? I mean, if a guy who was protesting thought that the Fed troops were unconstitutional and a threat to him, why can't he open fire on them? Isn't that the whole point of the 2nd Amendment?
Technically the point of the Second Amendment is for the State Legislature/Governor to appoint officers over the citizen militia and to tell the Feds to shove it, but we're not equipped for that.
because people want OTHERS to do it. They know if they open fire on police, they’ll either be killed on the spot or jailed for life. No bueno. So they want the part of the 2nd Amendment that gives them guns because guns are fun, but they don’t want to use them because they also enjoy living a free life. Now, if someone else were to open fire on those police, every 2A website would be creaming all over itself writing about them as martyrs. There’s a reason all those suicide bombers are drugged to the gills.
And this is the problem I’ve all along had with the NRA and the morons blindly yelling about their gun rights, who would stymie any effort to be like every other first world country and enact rules to protect people from themselves and each other: 1) most of them couldn’t name another constitutional right if their lives depended on it 2) the bullshit lie they spout is that they need guns to defend themselves, and the other rights they know nothing about, against an oppressive government. And (almost) none of them have the balls or intent to ever use their guns in the circumstances they claim. For fucks sake just be honest. You like to hunt, you like to shoot skeet, you like things that go bang, you like the history of weaponry, you like the craftsmanship- all valid points and I agree with every one. But stop with the bullshit fantasies that you’re going to save the country from itself or protect your family against tyranny, because you’re won’t. You aren’t right now, when our rights are getting trampled every day.
Dave Chappelle's latest special thing covered Dorner Dorner wikipedia entry my opinions regarding him have changed as I've gained perspective, as would I imagine is the case for many others
I like guns and activities which involve guns. That's my argument for owning them. I also carry on myself for protection, because I am legally allowed to do so. If I wasn't, I'm sure I could easily find other means. Run, hide, fight. A gun is related to the third option on that list. And I don't like the fact that many people who own and carry guns choose to do away with, or at least like to puff out their chests on the Internet saying they'd do away with, the run and hide options. The NRA is a lobbying group, nothing more. If they didn't also make money doing what they do, they wouldn't exist. I'm a firm 2nd Amendment supporter, but I also support this country and want to see it become the best version of itself. In order for that to happen, you have to acknowledge that not everything related to the 2A is good, and in fact some of it is counter-productive. Trump supporters love him because, they argue, trump loves America. Well if he truly loved America, he'd step down, because everything him and his base and the 2A crowd is doing right now is literally shooting itself in the foot.
What the Dorner saga showed is that police departments handle somebody turning on them VERY badly. And that wasn’t some podunk 4-cruiser station, it was the entire LAPD, focusing on HIM at once. Looked like a bunch of hair-trigger bloodthirsty faux action heroes. Spraying trucks with bullets that weren’t even the same colour as his. That was one guy. There are give it tak what, three hundred and twenty five million registered firearms or so in your country? Push the wrong one the wrong way, and he oh, let’s say builds a concrete dreadnaught in his garage and demolishes half a town like he’s fucking King Kong. The climate has made these people Robin Hood figures. Which will make them cult figures if things don’t change. Also: can the militant gun rights activist inAmerica at least give Obama credit for going eight years without EVER touching their guns? That was always the hot topic back then and... nothing happened. I think it’s because Obama knew that lots and lots of Democrats also own guns.
Austin PD has stated it is their belief that the man with the AK did not fire his weapon and that the car driver was the first to fire a weapon. The second batch of shots came from a third individual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJcCYXLLQ5U Twitter gets it wrong yet again. edit: Annnnd Trump retweets the false narrative, hours after Austin Police had made their statement debunking it.
I doubt it. He tried a couple times to get Congress to pass his proposed legislation, but they declined, and he enacted a bunch of executive orders related to gun control. But the bold part of what you wrote is true.
a lot of people (not me) think Obama WANTED to take their guns but was only stopped because... NRA? Republicans with guns? The idea of a dem proudly owning a firearm just doesn’t compute. They get shaking mad at the thought of it, and call them hypocrites. I know because it’s happened to me. Even though I don’t consider myself a Democrat, I consider myself a moderate republican, libertarian with some views. Gotta love being called a “fucking socialist” as a slur, by your own family. Or being called a hypocrite by the same people who happily take Medicare and social security and are asking for “more of those stimulus checks” while proudly supporting trump.
From what you see in that shooting video, there was no violent protestors. That was as orderly and peaceful as they have ever been since May, then shots ring out and people run screaming. So....”Lone Wolf”? Who’s going to push this dude away from their team first?