That’s serious low testosterone shit. He probably has to wear a hormone patch to keep it from falling off. It’s like a tragic Hans Christian Anderson tale. The Unfuckable Duckling Who Lost His Meds.
There is definitely increasing anti-Asian sentiment, but it usually expresses itself through harassment, sometimes escalating to assault. Multiple murders like this come from deep psychological obsession that doesn't happen quickly. Is it possible that this guy has had a long-running hatred of Asians that reached a tipping point due to recent rhetoric? Yes, but I think it's more likely that, given the totality of circumstances, his long-running hatred was of women. There's certainly plenty to explore at the juncture of gender, sex, and race that would be illustrative here, but I don't think this really fits in the same pattern we've been seeing elsewhere of increased attacks on Asians in America.
While what you say has merit, I can't agree. It's predicated upon believing the words of someone who committed a capital offense in a state with the death penalty. If we follow this line of thought to its logical conclusion, we would then have to believe that these women just happened to be Asian, and that was just a cosmic whoopsie daisy. It seems simpler and more likely to me that given the difference between a needle and life in prison is racism or misogyny, he's picking misogyny. To be clear, I don't think you're wholly wrong. I absolutely think he's a woman hating failure. I also just think the racial aspect is being downplayed because, quite frankly, white people don't want to be associated with yet another white domestic terrorist that killed a bunch of people. That they were Asian during a period of high anti-Asian sentiment just makes it worse.
I say we wait till they comb through this incel's social media stuff. Yes, obviously theres an asian thing going on here. If he wanted to off a bunch of white girls, he could have just shot up a lululemon. Why else did he pick such specific locations and victims? I'm gonna wait until I see something clear to connect it "chinavirus" type stuff though. I'm leaning more toward a soft target/seen-as-lesser-people type motives with a mixture of weird sex stuff.
WSJ article on it So the family immediately recognized their son from the video, and also, one would presume, were familiar with the location he was visiting. There certainly wasn't the shock factor, they were like duh, of course he was there. The shooter was also the son of a youth pastor. Gotta go with @Aetius on this one.
Done. You'll get that from me. I vow to not let it happen in front of me. I can say that I would, and have, spoken up about it before this. And I look menacing enough that people generally listen. You're right, we don't. This guy is a large departure from anything resembling a typical, mentally healthy person of any race. I do not want to be associated with him, and why would I be? .
Killing women is no more legal than killing Asians is. I expect prosecutors to seek the death penalty either way. You're right that it's extremely unlikely to be irrelevant that the women he chose were Asian, as I mentioned there's a lot to unpack here at the intersection of sex, gender, and race.
I am being asked to believe that he held his shit together while driving past Atlanta's numerous strip clubs, but lost his shit at an Asian massage parlor, and that doesn't matter as much as I think it does. There are two reasons why it matters to me. First, there are hate crime statutes to reckon with if it was determined that the cause was due to race. Shit gets biblical when it's a hate crime. Second, minimizing the race component turns this from "white guy kills Asian women because of racism" to "white guy kills women". I am not saying that one is better than the other. What I am saying that it allows people to not have to confront the hate that motivates these people to do the things they do. If progress is ever going to be made toward ending racism, that hate needs to be addressed. Having hard conversations is the only way that makes that happen.
Looking at Georgia's laws, there's a similar escalator for "knowingly created a great risk of death to more than one person in a public place by means of a weapon or device which would normally be hazardous to the lives of more than one person" which "shot multiple people" should be a slam dunk for. My guess is prosecutors go for that regardless of motivation
If he frequented those places, or frequented other massage parlors and for whatever reason decided that those were his easiest targets (as opposed to strip clubs where I'm guessing he'd encounter more armed resistance), then yes it certainly makes sense, in as much as anything could possibly "make sense" in regard to a senseless act. I'm just saying it's not smart to outright dismiss these motives, in a similar way to how we shouldn't outright dismiss race being a motivating factor. But correlation doesn't always equal causation, and just because there is a major issue with racially-motivated violence right now doesn't mean this absolutely has to fall into that category. It might. It could to an extent. There's a whole spectrum. But we shouldn't dismiss everything else just to make something fit a certain narrative. My initial hunch was that this was a hate crime, but you gotta change that view as more evidence comes out, or more of the story is known.
Virtually all the rub-n-tug places around here are ran by Asian women. Seems plausible that he was a regular there, had some sort of "come to Jesus" moment and wanted to rid the Earth of the sinners. Someone has a rager against Asians and the first place that comes into his head when he decides to mass murder them is a massage parlor? Seems odd.
Ten bucks says he was a self-loathing regular, got convinced that sex was the root of all his problems by some online community like no-fap, quit cold turkey, relapsed, went into a shame spiral, and blamed the women at the spas for everything wrong with his life.
his dad is a youth pastor. Literally everything about this dude is screaming "repressed sexual issues."
Jesus Christ. It’s bad enough women in these places often face human trafficking and forced prostitution, but this is pretty awful.
Yep. He's a Christian terrorist. Race had nothing to do with it. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-spa-shootings-says-he-was-motivated-n1261299
What in that article suggests “Christian terrorism?” He himself said he’s got a problem fighting off the boner demons.