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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. xrayvision

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    He was also laying on his chest which constricts breathing more and his neck was being compressed. Loss of blood circulation to the brain and constricted breathing with his hands cuffed behind his back.
     
  2. Nettdata

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    Sometimes to get enough oxygen, especially when doing physical activities, you need to be able to breathe deeply to get all the oxygen you need. It's about the volume into the lungs, with effective processing of said oxygen, to meet the demand of the body. COVID 100% fucks with this process, despite not having any cops kneeing on you.

    Mechanical breathing in and of itself does not mean that you/he are getting enough oxygen. If they were limiting his volume to (let's say) 50% of what it was normally, and yet he needed 75% of that normal volume to process enough air to stay conscious/alive, then you are slowly suffocating him despite the fact that he was breathing.
     
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    That's why "but he was breathing so he was fine" is such a fucking stupid answer coming from people that don't understand. It's right up there with "but I can smell farts through the mask so it does no good" crowd.
     
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    You can kill somebody by simply putting your weight on them then the right way, just enough so they can’t fight you off and slowly their hard drive shuts off under horrific panic and extreme exhaustion. There are MANY ways to suffocate to death.

    People watch too many movies and are under the impression we’re comic book-tough and can take on all comers. No. If somebody puts you in an Ezekiel or a Rear-Naked, they and they ALONE get to decide if you live or die. Because you are completely fucked at that point. You’re not going to gouge the eyes or “side-step” them. You are their bitch.
     
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    ha! Joke’s on you. I still can’t smell anything, except animal farts.... which I guess actually means the jokes is on me?

    anyway thanks for explaining the breathing thing. I’d never thought of it that way, and it was a genuine question. One of those don’t know what you don’t know kinda things
     
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    Most certainly could have complicated the distress his body was in. Judge let in the video of Floyd trying to swallow drugs in the face of a prior arrest and also doesnt help the ME said if the body would have come in without any outside information it could have easily been ruled an OD death. You should at least entertain the idea, outside of your intentional biases, that these facts could lead a juror to believe the prosecution's contentions arent provable beyond a reasonable doubt. Im guessing there could be a couple of jurors that could buy it. Why I think it'll be a hung jury.
     
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    To be clear, I wasn’t lumping you in with the morons, because you did what people should and questioned it, rather than just accepted a simplistic, uneducated self-interpretation of it.
     
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    no fear, it’s a long trial so I’m sure I’ll ask a moronic question eventually. Just keep your powder dry.
     
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    Yesterday was a day like no other. Went through some things and had to do some things I never thought I would have to do.

    Wife got the call that my father-in-law was found deceased yesterday morning. He had died in his sleep last Wednesday night or Thursday morning. A week old corpse, bloated, leaking fluids and unrecognizable, that is what my brother-in-law found. I don't even know why he continued into the man's house, the smell when you open the door was enough to tell you he was gone. And, yet, he did go into the house and see that. He was not processing what had happened what had happened in a healthy way, I don't think. He was deflecting with humor, saying some inappropriate things. I hope he begins to move through the grief properly soon.

    The coroner came and got the body. He was in bed, so they just used the sheet he was laying on to scoop him into the body bag. What was left behind was a mattress with a FIL-shaped-stain. Fluids and whatever soaked through the mattress and dripped into a puddle below.

    There were things missing from his house. Like one of his shady coworkers came to check on him after he missed work and stole some valuables.

    While we were there trying to figure that out, I decided to do something about the mattress and the mess below it. Perhaps that would help the smell and his family didn't need to continue see it. So, I probably did this all wrong, I'm sure I missed some biohazard disposal regs. But, I grabbed the mattress and took it away to burn. This is the boonies, you get away with stuff like that. I scrubbed the laminate floor beneath the bed with bleach. I got some on my pants, I burned them, too.

    As I'm doing that, I notice a green thing that almost looks like a tarp. It was a body bag. They'd left an extra body bag. We called them, they do not want to waste their time coming to pick up an old spare body bag, they told us to keep it or throw it away.

    Damn, what a fucked up day.
     
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    Goddamn, man, sorry.

    Were the cops called? Because I'm really suspicious about the missing valuables.
    Makes me think that maybe his death wasn't natural.
     
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    No, we're going to check the man's favorite pawn shops first. When I say valuables, in the case of my father-in-law, I mean a few guns. It's all he had worth anything. And even then, we're talking under $1,000.

    He was also bad about pawning them to make ends meet. If they're not in a pawn shop under his name, we'll report them stolen.

    I don't have any suspension that there was foul play. I'd believe suicide before I believe he died of foul play with no signs of struggle. There was a vial of insulin on the coffee table, he could've died on purpose.

    He started passing out his keepsakes to his sister, son and grandchildren months ago. The guns is the only thing that doesn't make sense. He had money in the bank, food in the cabinets and his rent was caught up. Makes me think they walked off with someone that checked on him sooner.
     
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    Looking like this could be the case. We have a suspect and an address. FIL worked construction with some people that like the uppers, his boss knows a coworker went to check on him, but just said he didn't answer the door. The boss said, without question, he could see this guy doing it.
     
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    Isn't it a requirement to inform law enforcement when you find a dead body?
     
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    Not when you steal all their shit and just say no one answered the door.
     
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    Holy shit man, I’ve had to remove bodies like that ( and worse ). There is no way I’d wish seeing a family member like that on anyone. That’s just awful.
     
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    Some fucked up shit if dude thieved the house after seeing the guy dead. Construction worker? Any copper missing? Some methhead shit. These are the vaunted trades Mike Rowe gushes about.
     
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    I would think that is a requirement.

    Another thing did turn up missing. All the batteries to his cordless tools. That is the one other thing the man had that was worth some money, no cheap power tools. The chargers are in his truck boxes, the tools are there, no batteries. He had his name written on all the tools, but maybe not the batteries. Those can be quite useful for someone that has the same brand of tools, maybe worth some money even used, I know they're expensive new.

    I'm back at home with the kid, I don't know what is going on with the family and the police report or investigation. Hopefully, I can give a good update in a little while. I can't stand someone that steals from anyone.
     
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    It amuses me that you posted this. Because I immediately think things like “isn’t it a requirement that you not cut the valve stems off someone else’s tires?” Man, we’ve all been here a while.
     
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    DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.

    RULES FOR THEE, NOT FOR ME.

    All that shit.
     
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