And a simple google gives you lots: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/9778...ere-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used
They said he died of a stroke from being attacked, so it doesn’t count. They were trying to kill plenty of them, though. Crossing the “Red line” when told not to, that counts. It also justifies it.
this. The Capitol insurrection was the worst thing I’ve ever seen outside of terrorist attacks like 9/11 (though it was a terrorist attack — domestic terrorists). Rioting and destroying property is bad as well. I don’t like either of them. You can say one is bad, while also saying the other is horrible too. Apples and oranges though with them. regarding George Floyd, his character and past deeds does not mean that cop had any right to be the judge, jury, and executioner. It’s possible to say both he was not a good person, but also that the killing of him was flat murder and shouldn’t have happened.
It's crazy to me how this point needs to be repeated ad nauseam, meanwhile they just reply "nah uh!" and go merrily on their way. Spend your psychic energies wisely.
That awkward moment when a Canadian has to explain to an American how attacking our democracy is bad.....
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/oath...tol-riot-indictment-conspiracy-022958123.html It could have been much worse on the 6th.
I love how somehow my comment got all twisted out of place. I think y'all see my name, kind of read what I wrote, then read other's comments that slowly steer the narrative into completely different territory, then run with it. I said that martyring the dead girl is no more/no less ridiculous than martyring George Floyd. Somehow y'all twisted that into me supporting Jan 6 and the idiots involved or simply down playing it. Fucks sake. Both died at the hands of law enforcement, both were doing stupid shit they shouldn't have.
If by "Downplaying" you mean that I don't buy into the hyperbole that we were just a hair breadth from the entire country collapsing, and death squads roaming the streets hunting down gays and minorities, while putting up statues glorifying Hitler....then you are right, I do down play it. It was a bunch of idiots "Armed" with what is standard fair for any BLM protest. Biden called it the worst attack on our democracy since Pearl Harbor and the hyperbole spun out of control since then. Hell, it's not even the worst thing to happen in the Capitol since WWII...1954 capitol shooting
It was a direct attack on our democratic process caused by a sitting President. All hyperbole aside, that is a very serious thing.
Agreed. Toytoy, if it had been the EXACT same actions - same amount of people, same weapons, same destruction - but it happened four years ago with Obama calling on the mob to march on down the road and raid the capitol buildings, would you be as "meh" about it? Would you be posting the same articles that kind of marginalize it and be equally of the opinion that, "Well, they're just harmless idiots, why are we so worked up about this, it's not a REAL threat"? I don't think you would. I think you're letting your political leanings give some favorable treatment to one side of this argument. George Floyd, regardless of his past, was straight up murdered by a police officer. Found guilty after a free and fair trial by a jury of his peers. Perceived to be guilty by anyone who viewed the unedited tape. Even if he was Adolph Hitler, the cops had a fiduciary duty to protect him and bring him safely to jail where he could be tried in a court for his crimes. Period. The Capitol Hill riots were a direct affront to your democracy, called for by a sitting president. Was the media depiction of Trump fair during his term? Absolutely not. That has no bearing on a mob storming the halls of government and trying to prevent the elected representatives from executing their sworn duties. I'm all for being an ecumenical critic. No side gets a fair pass; but if that's the rule, then carry it out. Every one of those Capitol Hill idiots should be in jail, the cops who killed Floyd should be in jail. They aren't two sides to the same coin.
I don't know, maybe I'm not making myself clear here. I'll give it one more shot... It was a significant event and it was disgraceful. Equally disgraceful are the politicians and ordinary citizens lionizing and making excuses for the protesters. Hunt them all down and prosecute them. And if it were a stand alone event I might tend to agree with the rest of you, but it was not a stand alone event. Things were leading up to this for years. Remember when Trump was first running and people that were simply going to hear him speak were punched and pummeled with eggs, bottles, and bags of urine? How about after he was elected and we were treated to two months of millions of people marching, chanting "Not my president" and "This is what democracy looks like" while they destroyed and burned public and private property? And then last summer we watched mobs torch and loot numerous cities. And nary a peep from the left that those events were distasteful....although soon to be VP Harris did tweet out how you could help bail the rioters out of jail. A blind man could've seen what was coming. I hoped against hope that it didn't. It turned my stomach watching events unfold, but it didn't catch me by surprise. I'm not saying it was right or excusable, but it was predictable. Jan 6th and the other events I listed were all either condoned or completely ignored by one side or the other. You can't call out one side's violence if you're supporting violence from your own side. I don't have a side in this and I'm sorry if it sounds like I do. Both sides are equally and completely wrong and continue to be wrong every time they fan the flames and point the finger at the other side instead of trying to find a way to fix this mess they create. Politicians and activists thrive on chaos...look at any politician who tries to work with the other side, they're immediately attacked by their own. It's sad and it's leading us down a dangerous path. I hope Jan 6th was the end point of what things were leading up to, but sadly I don't think it will be. This country has become so completely divided I don't know if there is any way to fix it other than Balkanization.
I think one of the reasons people are questioning what you are saying is because you are lumping together a bunch of events which have very little to do with one another, but then saying, "see both sides are doing things!" People who were going to hear Trump speak before he got elected also were beating people on the other side for being around his rallies. The million woman march was geared toward people being upset that Trump had won the presidency while calling out a bunch of women directly and in some cases with extremely volatile language, treating them like they were subhuman. I don't remember reading about a massive amount of public or private property burned because of this. A little while after that, people started to remove statues forcibly which were honoring confederate members as they felt this was a constant reminder of a very racially charged time in our country and how a lot of those things in the not too distant past were starting to creep up again. The BLM movement was directed at the police, it had very little to do with "government". Yes, people rioted, shit was burned, lots of horrible behavior was encouraged and went unpunished. All of the above, they were hardly Republican vs Democrat issues. You could have been a republican woman and not liked the things Trump represented. You could have been a white democrat and been in support of the BLM movement. The Jan 6th storming of the capital was COMPLETELY different from any of these things. They literally tried to stop the government from certifying someone who won an election. This is above and beyond marching for women's rights or marching for police reform. This was trying to stop a presidential election from being certified, sparked by the former president. If we saw something like that happen in Iran you know what 99% of people would say. You can try and justify it and say it was expected and it's not different, but it's actually a huge deal which has been downplayed and minimized by a lot of people, particularly on the right, and I don't agree with that stance in the slightest.
These guys do such good work, it's a shame this isn't broadcast far and wide. https://youtu.be/jcGi4maiJW8
https://www.yahoo.com/news/t-ignore-ufo-sightings-spark-100116674.html I firmly believe that there is other life in the universe. I also firmly believe that they would be stupid to reveal themselves to us.
When we finally reach the level of extrasolar travel, the first thing we'll see is a series of flashing yellow lights strung together with cosmic Caution tape and the word DETOUR written across. We are the shithole planet, we don't send our best but some of us are good people.
There is probably an intergalactic list of all the planets and we are in the Meghan's law section....
The Supreme Court just unanimously decided that illegal aliens can never apply for permanent citizenship.