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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. downndirty

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    1 confirmed fatality, number of injuries. Roughly 130 units in the building, 72 were affected, whole place evacuated.
    Dade County is handling it, investigation pending this morning.

    Rough start to a day, for sure. I think I heard them report it happened at 2 a.m.
     
  2. Crown Royal

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    Who knows. Many of them died from exposure or starvation from trying to run back home (they intentionally took them hundreds of miles away to make that impossible). It’s was nothing but an abuse program for destroying native cultures. And it was sadistic in ways I can’t wrap my head around.

    For example: if any kid was caught speaking in their native tongue, a nun or priest would force them to hold a red-hot coal in the palm of the hand.

    The thing that angers me especially now is that some of these cocksuckers are still alive, and they are not rotting in jail like they should be. I don’t care how fucking old or full of regret they are, they are a fucking disease and they should die in prison.
     
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    I don't see how it's possible for a 12-story residential building to pancake collapse at 2 am and there only be 1 fatality. I'm sure that number will rise dramatically. That's terrible.
     
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    I suspect most won’t ever be found, in part due to the difficulty and the lack of cooperation from church officials in terms of releasing records...what little they bothered to keep. More likely though, is that the news will drop off in a few months time, and like every First Nations Issue it will quickly lose momentum once out of the public consciousness.

    Compounding that is Perry Bellegarde’s decision not to run for re-election. I don’t like that smarmy cunt on a personal level, but he DOES get indigenous issues brought to the table and raises a giant stink about them. For all of his faults he is a man who truly loves his people. We will be worse off without him.
     
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    This may be too much for any discussion, given its sensitivity, but HOW IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STILL ALLOWED TO EXIST.

    Imagine if it turned out that roughly 6% of Apple's workforce were active pedophiles. And that Apple had a whole infrastructure in place to deal with it privately, which involved shuffling the pedophiles to new jurisdictions when they were caught, bribing police, "retraining and counseling" guilty staff and paying hush money to any family that raised hell if it happened to them. We all remember Jerry Sandsusky and Penn State, and that was one rogue guy and a handful of people who covered for him. If Apple, in my example, was thoroughly investigated and a sourced, factual report released proving the pedophile hierarchy...well, by the end of the week your iPhone wouldn't even turn on. The company would utterly collapse, the valuable pieces be sold off, the higher ups tried and anyone who ever worked for them would be ashamed to utter the name of the business.

    So, remind me why we tolerate this church. I'm really at a loss here, and every time this kind of thing rears its head and the curio and the clergy are allowed to continue to exist, I dismiss all outrage about child abuse and sexual assault, because it's so hypocritical that I can't abide any of it. Child abusers and rapists should be stood against a wall and shot, and any institution that protects what they do should be swiftly dismantled and never allowed to return.
     
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    “religious liberties” or some shit like that. I don’t agree with it, but that’s what people claim.
     
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    You can ask the same question about most religious organizations. Most have some sort of dark underbelly of horrors they've subjected upon individuals in the name of their piety. Equivocating Apple to a religious organization is a false dichotomy, they aren't the same animal. Apple has been around for 45yrs and employees 20k+ people? The Catholic church has been around for over a millennia and over a billion members.

    There's a reason religious wars are often the bloodiest and the root of some of the worst atrocities in history.
     
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    As someone who was raised Catholic, you’re not going to find any love for the Church here. The priest in my parish wasn’t a pedophile, but he did do this in the very next community he was in. It’s a cancerous institution.

    People tend to tolerate terrible things that are either 1) convenient, or 2) ingrained into them. Apple is an interesting comparison because they practically use slave labor in their factories in a country that is currently engaging in genocide. Yet, I have an iPhone.
     
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    Short answer: money, and an absurdly lengthy history of power, manipulation and obscuring scandal.

    Longer answer: I think it's unfair to taint an entire faith, enormous swaths of people, and literally an entire country because of the actions of the few. Those few absolutely should face justice, and the organization should reform itself. However, they've painted themselves into a corner, while their power is dissipating: fewer and fewer people subscribe to their newsletter, predicated on them being a direct conduit to the Ultimate Cosmic Authority. They can't admit wrongdoing, because....reasons nebulously associated with "God's will"? If they approach guilt or awareness, they are susceptible for billions in lawsuits, not to mention the blow it would deliver to their attendance. So, their response has bascially been "catch me, bitch."...which can't last much longer.

    For a lot of folks, the pedophilia scandal was a handy excuse to pull the plug they wanted to pull for years.

    We can't just ban Catholicism, and rape is damnably hard to prove in the best of circumstances....false allegations against a church, especially something this explosive, is political suicide. It'd be like accusing Santa Claus of being a Nazi: you best come correct, because the mere allegation is going to galvanize a bunch of angry people that already see this part of their life under threat.

    Culturally, we're approaching a tipping point where religious folk are the minority, and the church's money, power and influence will be dramatically reduced. A few years after that happens....I'd imagine there will be a bloodbath when a priest gets caught. And if the Catholics fall.....the rest of the Jesus Squad isn't far behind, albeit for much less heinous shit.
     
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    The first step to battling religion is taxing it, as it always should have been. Money is power and religion has too much of both.

    ….and by “power” I mean exactly how many people have to say — on the official record—“David Miscavige physically assaulted me” before the police even bother to question that dead-eyed little turd?
     
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    Grew up Catholic, attended Catholic schools til college. I was pretty deeply observant of the faith. It's easy to brainwash a child when they are surrounded by others who believe the same, where being faithful is lauded and questions are a nuisance. Then I got out into the world. Applied my God given logic to questions that previously had very unsatisfactory answers and started to realize this scaffold of religion was a tool of control and utter bullshit. Got plugged in better to current events and news, and thought harder about the disgusting child sex scandals that were repeatedly covered up and not acknowledged by the lower working parts of the church and community.

    Now, I am firmly anti-Catholic and pretty anti-religious as well. I'll never forget the time at the Thanksgiving dinner table when some church related sex scandal was mentioned and my nun aunt just shook her head and lamented at what an unfortunate (implied 'one-off') incident that was, with the subject changing immediately.

    Also, TAX THE CHURCHES.
     
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    holy fucking shit

     
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    One of my employees ghosted me last week. Finally called me today saying that he was in jail for "some dumb shit" Did a quick google search and apparently, his "dumb shit" was running a dog fighting ring. I feel ill knowing that I was employing someone who could do that to animals. I don't know when his trial is, but I hope he goes away for a long long time.

    nerds rep edit - EX-employee. He will never work for my company again.
     
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    Some internet sleuthing, including Spanish-only interviews with former residents, have so far told me:
    It wasn't a sudden and immediate collapse. There was flooding in the garage, parts of the ceiling coming down, if you happened to be awake you likely had just enough warning of something terrible happening that you could haul ass outside. But once it started falling, that was it.
    Reddit thinks it was a sinkhole opening in just the wrong place. There's a couple from the remaining build who said they'd made their way to the basement, where they found water levels rising.
     
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    "The latest announcement from WWDC: the touch-enabled iPed."
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/mi...e-06-24-21/h_1159358fc123f9dc61020571d4fcbbc2

    1 confirmed dead, 90 missing
     
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    Faster than free fall speeds. Inside job.

    Too soon?
     
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    planes don’t do that
     
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    Climate change is a fear mongering hoax. Also we built the entire city of Miami on a limestone sponge roughly three feet above sea level.
     
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    Octillions of cocaine dollars don’t have time to listen to your hoaxes on laws of engineering. We got a table at The Forge tonight and we are throwing back MAD Hollywood rails with it. I already have my best mesh shoes on.