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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Aetius

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    It's shit or get off the pot time. I have to imagine he needs to either ramp up or ramp down. Given that he's made the wrong decision at every point so far, I'm going to guess he plans to ramp up.
     
  2. Nettdata

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    3 Russian cosmonauts just launched to the ISS.

    Gotta say, the colour scheme of their uniforms sure made a silent, yet defiant statement.

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    Saw this and had to share it.

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    Likewise they'll find out why our bombs are smarter than our schoolchildren.
     
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    I'm not buying it. A Putinist surveillance organism that reaches all the way down to the level of checking individual citizens' cellphones, does not have people at the higher agency levels who would catch this stunt and kill it in the womb?
     
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    "Jonathan McDowell, a scientist at the Harvard Center for Astrophysics who closely follows space missions, suggested the colours might actually be those of Bauman Moscow State Technical University, which all three of the astronauts - Oleg Artemyev, Denis Matveev and Sergey Korsakov - attended. An official from the university spoke as a guest on the Russian livestream of the launch Friday."

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    still very coincidental though, and I don't believe something this important would happen by "accident"
     
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    I can't recall where I read it, but supposedly those uniforms were packed months ago.
     
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    That doesn’t matter. How do we want to feel about it right now?
     
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    Does anybody else think that Chinese 737 crashing from a straight dive into the ground after cruising at 30k feet is weird? How does that happen?
     
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    There are reports of it kind of leveling out at 10k feet for a bit and then crashing from there, so don't know.

    10k feet is a bit of a magical number in aviation, in that it's the "oxygen" altitude. Anything above it, you need O2 pumped on board or pressurized cabins. If something goes wrong with cabin pressure, SOP is to get to 10k quickly. Sounds like it could have been a bit of a structural thing. If they lost cabin pressure, etc, for some reason, like an engine blowing up and fans breaching the hull, they could have initiated an emergency dive. Meanwhile, other shit could be happening over time, like loss of power, fire, loss of control systems, etc.

    So, I would guess: major mechanical failure causing all sorts of shit, rapid descent to 10k for O2, attempt to carry on while shit still deteriorates, secondary mechanical failure that results in loss of control.
     
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    Yeah, that was the first video I posted from Reddit (didn't know the source link).

    The second one shows that it's not straight down like that first one implies.

    Insane.
     
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    I guess it depends on the axis you’re viewing it from.
     
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    Yeah, when I made my question post, I had seen one of those videos, and that's why I was wondering if anyone else thought it's weird. It just seems very, very different than any other crashes I've heard about.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    The one thing that kind of jumps out at me is that neither one of those angles shows any signs of wings. At least none that jump out at me (and I really don't want to go and watch those videos again).

    In both cases, my first thoughts were "this is a sideways view and that's why I can't see the wings." But then you had another angle showing dive slope, and still no wings.

    Not a typical crash by a long stretch, if you ask me.
     
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    It must be the lack of quality or frame rate or sideways view. There was a lot of fire at the crash site. Isn't the fuel stored in the wings?
     
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    It fell like a rock. If there wasn’t direct intent from the pilot (which has happened before) I have no idea what would make a plane dive like that. Bombings would likely leave a smoke/fire trail behind the plane.