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Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Juice

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    He is sooooo butt-hurt that Musk blocked him. His recent ranting about it is laughably absurd.
     
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    I have no idea who he is or why I should care. But all good, because I don't.
     
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    It's like someone took the statement "you couldn't possibly make Twitter shittier than it is" as a challenge. As if what Twitter needs is more toxic 15-year-old edgelord takes.
     
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    Twitter banning you is not against the 1st Amendment! Musk taking over Twitter is a danger to the 1st Amendment!
     
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    Twitter has nothing at all to do with the 1st amendment.
     
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    The word on how the Moskva was sunk is pretty impressive. The ship was defended by a two classes of radar. A higher quality system that only has 180 degrees of visibility, and a second system that has a full 360 degrees. The Ukrainians wrapped a drone around behind the ship to draw the eye of the main radar, and then fired a missile from the other direction. They timed this to occur during a storm which they knew would be generating waves that the missile could "hide" amongst from the second radar.
     
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    What are the chances Ukraine had all of this specific intelligence on the capabilities/vulnerabilities of the ship's radar versus this being a pretty clear "pssst, come over here for a sec" moment from Western intelligence agencies/military?
     
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    Probably a bit of both. The ship was originally built in Ukraine but recently modernized by Russia.
     
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    Ok, its been a few decades since I've looked at Russian ship radar systems, but there's likely at least half a dozen radar systems on that ship. This is how these systems regardless of country work together:

    the 360° system is likely the search system which don't have the needed resolution to create a firing solution. It likely scans for surface and airborne objects.

    The 180° limited scan radar is likely the fire control radar for the surface to surface missiles on the ship (the big ass canisters on each side of the superstructure) and is useless for airborne threats. It likely has nothing to do with the defense of the ship.

    This class of ship does have a navalized version of the S300 Russian SAM system as well as point defense systems that utilize sector search radars that will track and compute a firing solution for the SAMs/point defense guns, but as was posted, there was a storm and the associated heavy sea state adds a significant amount of clutter to hide sea skimming missiles.

    I chalk this one up to the Ukrainians knowing the capabilities of their enemy's weapons and biding their time until favorable conditions to ensure a successful attack.
     
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    It always kind of amazes me to see what kind of knowledge there is kicking around here.
     
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    Is there any photos or videos of the sinking? Am I right that the Russians first said, "oh we had a fire, going back to port for repairs," and then, had to admit it sunk, and they were like, "yeah, it sunk in a towing accident on the way back to port" or something like that? Because, I'd think if they had to admit it sunk, there must be some photo evidence?
     
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    I wish I could find my favourite photo... it's taken from the beach, with huge smoke plumes off to sea, with a big fucking John Deere looking out over the water, as if waiting to be able to tow it back to the farm.
     
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    Wow Twitter an absolute mess. Good luck trying to justify poison-pilling a buyout offer with an 18% premium.
     
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    I'm still waiting for all the iT's NoT LiQuId bros to explain how Musk can afford this purchase.
     
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    If he sells his stake, crashes the stock, and then buys back in, he could very well get 51% without being an insider or having to report. He'd own control before anyone knew.
     
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    I just want people to never use the word "liquid" in a discussion about billionaires and taxes again. That's really all I want.
     
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    You mean it’s a bullshit cop-out when people reflexively say that all his wealth is tied up in equity? I agree.
     
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    Yes. Tell me that if you tax him he won't be able to afford as many Princesses of Mars as hookers for his John Carter harem, just as long as you don't predicate your entire argument on the assumption that I've never heard of stocks before.
     
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    Yeah... I love how people think he's got $53b just sitting in a savings account.

    For fuck sake, I'm not even that liquid... I could come up with some pretty good cash on relatively short notice, but it would still take me time to make it liquid.
     
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    I do believe he's in a better financial position than he was. His Ted talk yesterday(?) where he basically explained how the SEC and the banks forced him to plead guilty and accept shit or else they would remove his financial services, effectively killing Tesla, was quite interesting.

    He's coming out swinging right now, and I think that's because he's nowhere near as beholden to the banks as he was earlier on.

    There's some major shit brewing in the financial sector lately, and I expect that there will be a huge push back and reckoning sooner rather than later.