BLM is a joke. They don't want justice, they want retribution. Even a scumbag like Spike Lee thinks there message is fucked up.
Interesting read about "superficial diversity" by Alan Dershowitz: http://www.businessinsider.com/alan...-dont-want-true-diversity-in-colleges-2015-11 Even though I read it in my best "get off my lawn" inner voice, I agree with what he has to say. "These students don't want me to be safe," he said. "They don't want students who agree with me to be safe. They just want their ideas to be safe and protected from any contrary point of view."
This is some seriously fucked up shit: http://claremontindependent.com/safe-spaces-segregate-the-claremont-colleges/ People of colour get their own "safe spaces", with "no whites allowed" hours. What complete and utter bullshit.
And it just gets better and better: http://www.independent.co.uk/studen...niversity-of-illinois-at-urbana-a6740466.html And by that I mean "worse and worse".
With any action group you stand the risk of getting a reactionary one. In this case the Black Lives Matters people have gone so off the rails with their thuggery (gasp!), that it's natural for whomever they target to coalesce. It's a big fucking mess over nothing.
I don't see what the big deal is. Yes these spaces are separate, but it's not like they're better or worse; they're just equal.
If I may digress from the race war for just a moment. What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with you, Texas? These just came up today. Rep. Lamar Smith of TX (CHAIR of House Science Committee) is harrassing climate scientists because he refutes their findings. The Texas Board of Education rejected a measure Wednesday that would require university experts to fact-check the state’s textbooks in public schools. The measure was likely proposed in response to a complaint last month, when a Houston mother found her child’s newly approved geography textbook referred to African slaves shipped to plantations in the United States between the 1500s and 1800s as “workers.” Also, "In 2014, the Texas Freedom Network Education Fund studied new history books up for review by the state’s Board of Education. The group highlighted a number of biased inaccuracies, suggesting segregated schools weren’t completely bad and Affirmative Action recipients are un-American." This is shit straight out of 1984. If I had to write a caricature of an evil dictator this would be it. See also, Kim Jong Il.
5 Terrorists captured plotting to shoot and bomb Jewish synagogues and black churches. Something tells me this might not get a lot of play today. It is difficult to talk about potential terrorists sneaking in during a humanitarian crisis when we already have so many of our own nationality. Especially when so many will swear up and down racism is not alive. Oh, but these people are the outliers. Right. Fine. Meanwhile in Kentucky, someone actually went on record saying they voted for the governor who promised to take away their healthcare just because he wasn't a career politician. Guess which issues weren't on the ballot? Gay marriage and abortion. Same article says even Alabama is expanding Medicaid because the huge rural population has basically no access to healthcare. Alabama. Let that sink in. I'm done for today. I'm going to go get drunk. Fuck this shit.
Clearly Blacks and Jews are not worthy of wielding Mjolnir. This is merely what the holy scripture set forth by Marvel says.
And to complete the circle of ridiculousness, the Black Justice League (I swear to God I didn't make that up) at Princeton is demanding that everything relating to Woodrow Wilson be removed because he was.....wait for it.... a segregationist. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/woodrow-wilson-princeton_b_8616220.html Can you imagine the outcry if they ever take the time to read some of the things Lincoln wrote/said? "I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” by: Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
So the more I read about the Princeton thing and thought about it, I kind of see where the black students are coming from. Because he was instrumental in creating some of the segregationist policies that took place at Princeton and the federal government, they don't want to honor him by naming a building after him. He was incredibly racist, even by the standards of his day. I felt like they were on the SJW warpath but then I read more about Wilson's legacy and it's pretty bad. I read some articles because I wanted more info. http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/19/princeton-students-are-right-woodrow-wilson-was-the-worst/ After reading that, I get it. While the timing is right along with the stupid people creating issues out of nothing, this issue is being wrongly conflated with the rest of them. They don't think his name should be erased from textbooks but they don't want to honor him either.
Not that I'm disagreeing with what you wrote, but the article you cited is full of shit. Nope, he didn't say that. Source: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_segregation.html Also the articles claim "He’s the only president that I know of who’s ever celebrated the Ku Klux Klan in the White House." The closest I've seen to that claim is that he held a private screening in the White House of "Th Birth of a Nation" and that he liked it. Looking at his thoughts and actions with the mores and values of modern eyes, yes he was a racist prick. So was Lincoln. And Washington. And Jefferson. And probably everyone else 100+ years ago. One of the protesting students said they felt "Uncomfortable" walking by buildings and places named after him. "Uncomfortable?" The world is going to chew this person up. If I went somewhere that was named after someone 100 years previous to me who said I didn't belong there, it would make me smile knowing things have changed.
Now are these 18-21 something kids who haven't taken protest classes, negotiation classes, or have learned the 100% best and perfect approach to this situation? Absolutely not. BUT - Every time Black people say anything like "Hey we want this" white people act like it's like it's being taken away from them and "HOW DARE THEY NOT GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AND DO THINGS THAT UPSET MY SENSIBILITIES?" The same proper channels that has kept the subpar status quo for too long. Come on, you guys are smarter than this. What you can't sit here and do is expect a group of 20 somethings who are constantly reminded of a history of - 300 years of Slavery (and systematic cultural/origin erasure) - 66 years of Black Codes - 96 years of Jim Crow Laws - 50 years of Civil Rights - 30 years of the War on Drugs - 20+ years of Rodney King to Treyvon Martin to Eric Garner and expect them to protest and act according to your beliefs based off your experience. That isn't fair or realistic. Safe spaces for people of color is not the same thing as Jim Crow segregation. Because people who violate that aren't going to jail, aren't going to get brutally beaten/killed, or have their property vandalized/burned. On top of that the safe spaces left open for white people aren't in anyway inferior. Well, unless you consider 80% of the Western World inferior or an unsafe space. It isn't ironic for them to be asking for this, what they're trying to do is give back a taste of the medicine. Equating this to actual Jim Crow is false equivalency at best and trolling at worst. These students do not have the power to enforce anything at the level the U.S. Government enforced Jim Crow laws. My parents grew up during in the Jim Crow era, I showed them this story and couldn't even imagine equating those two things. Now with that said, the whole safe space thing is completely fucking silly and we need to be careful with this word "safe" as it's on the same coin as "offended'. The problem is that the hardcore PC SJW and the BLM movement on college campuses, is that there is need for them. Here is #BLM the core philosophy in a nutshell. 426 people killed in Chicago, the countries 3rd largest city JUST IN 2015, which isn't over yet and no one gives a fuck. 136 people die in Beirut and no one gives a fuck. 130 white people die in Paris, people lose their shit. Everyone wants to shit on #BlackLivesMatter and say #AllLivesMatter but obviously they don't, because more than half the people reading this have already said some version of "Well that happens all the time there" or some version of "well they brought it upon themselves by x, y, z" or "Well you can't expect people to care about Beirut, because it feels so far off, we can't relate." If #AllLivesMatter, then no fucking reason ever given denies that. There are problems out there that aren't getting solved on their own. Now I don't personally agree with the PC, silencing of anyone's opposing voice, but after having their voices go silenced for so long of course this reaction is going to happen. Alan Dershowitz's article makes a lot of good points, but...would you want more of a group of people that have been directly or indirectly trying to keep you from getting equal rights and access to the American dream? I think not. What we're watching/experiencing here, that we all have to understand, is that this a work in progress. It's a cultural negotiation. Just like negotiating a new salary. You want 100k you have to go in and ask for 110k. (Or that friend you know is always an hour late and you tell them to meet you an hour earlier so they're on time.) Then you meet in the middle where you actually wanted to be. That's is what is going on here, to get to equality, there are going to be some reaches for more than that. It is going to eventually balance it out, what we can't do is just shit on the process. It's going to get messy in a lot of ways and it needs to before it cleans itself up and we can start moving past that history.
So I can't expect people to act within reason with protests due to various factors, yet I am supposed to accept that this is just reasonable negotiation tactics?
I see what you're saying and let's break it down. Starting with the last thing first. It's like a negotiation in the following way: Asking for something unreasonable to get something reasonable, because if they asked for something reasonable, they'd get something unfair. Tie that in with the late friend analogy. Also, high stakes negotiations are always messy, they were messy with the NFL and the NBA. Lots of unsavory tactics get used all the time, let's not act like negotiations are always clean and pretty. This is pretty much a civil rights movement and those are not prim and proper events. Now back to the protests, I am not sure the sit-ins and bus sit-ins were seen as "in reason" either, when Jim Crow segregation, separate by equal was viewed as "in reason". So the protests had to happen. These are 18-21 somethings who don't know what the proper approach is, I don't agree every little action they're taking, but it seems like the conversation here has been 100% on the shortcomings of what they're trying to do. Like the better situation would be if these kids just went home and shut up. Not sure what to tell these guys when it's the only attention they've gotten on this problem as a whole? What's the right process to do what they're trying to do? The kids at Mizzou couldn't get anyone to take action against people calling them "niggers" out in the quad or whoever drew the Swastika in shit on someone's dorm room door. What's reasonable here? As long as everything stays non-violent and doesn't infringe upon the rights of others, things are going be in play. We can argue the safe space thing in terms of infringing upon the rights of others, but both sides of that argument are stupid. 1 for wanting a "safe space" 2 for being upset for not being able to go into a space that doesn't exist in the first place. It's like one kid making up never never land and the other kid getting pissed he can't go there.