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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. toytoy88

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    Worse then that. EVERY conviction from there would now tainted. Every. Single. One.
     
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    Obviously not defending them, but if I had to guess? A few beers in they'd probably tell you they were convinced those people did something else and goddamnit they were going to make sure they ended up in jail even if they couldn't prove the other thing.

    And why did they thing that? See CJ's post, probably.
     
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    I'll try and find a link, but I'm pretty sure this was the police department that revealed half the cops on the force were in the KKK.
     
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    Not the KKK but I think a Confederate club who's platform is to "ship all blacks back to Africa". That's a club group photo CJ posted.
     
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    I'm going to hold out on this one. This story is a fucking nuke, and by far the worst thing I've heard that will be connected to the BLM movement. If you dig around a bit you can find minor stories and postings dating several years back asserting the same charges, but without the hard evidence or breadth of injustice. So far I'm not seeing any of the major outlets reporting it yet. They suck, but I'm assuming they're unsure what to make of it yet. It's going to be very interesting to see how this develops over the next few days. That's quite a story, I'm just not ready to assume truth in it's totality within hours of it breaking. If it is as bad as it looks leave it to the fucking south to keep an entire group of officers on duty who are openly committed to destroying an ethnic community. I've never heard of the group the articles are referring to. Are they well known?
     
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    Because the South is the only place where these things happen. It is small town bullshit committed by horrible people, not inherently Southern. I don't see anyone blaming the entire Midwest when a St. Louis suburb riots, or the Mountains when a guy shoots up planned parenthood, so why when something happens down here it's the region's fault instead of the individuals?
     
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    Because the region is responsible for starting a Civil War over maintaining race-based slavery. Many of the people still have that mentality, exemplified by the Confederate flag. So yeah, we can make that claim based on the region.
     
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    So because of something that happened 150 years ago and a some current idiots, it's as simple as classifying it as a regional thing rather than looking at the individuals that actually did it? That's a fucking lazy argument. I mean it's not like we recently had an idiot do something horrible at the very place the civil war started in a state that flew the Confederate flag to give us an example of how the modern South would handle such things.
     
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    I wouldn't generalize people living in the south that way, but if you think this story wasn't infinitely more likely to happen in the south you're off your rocker. You think it would be equally possible in Minnesota or Vermont?

    And dude, I've lived in the south. Or the 'pseudo south' of northern Florida, and spent time in the rest of the SEC region. The level of racism is worlds apart from other areas of the country. Sorry, but that's not some random arbitrary opinion.
     
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    Lol, of course it's more likely to happen in the South, simply based on demographics. Who exactly would the white people of Minnesota or Vermont be racist against?
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    http://www.censusscope.org/us/map_nhblack.html
     
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    Fine, you're right. It was an unfair characterization of a lot of people, I'll concede that. However, if "southern pride" is held in high regard and the Confederacy is thought of nostalgically instead of shamefully, there is a basis for how an individual is going to act based on the environment. Again, not an indictment of the South as a whole, and the individual is responsible, but we cant pretend that it isnt a factor.

    I make the same argument for the Middle East and Islam down to the micro-level for college campuses and politically correct fascism.
     
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    Granted I picked two of the whitest states, but 17% of Minneapolis is black. New York, Ohio, and Illinois are all above the national average. Your map is a little misleading in it's appearance that black people are all clustered together in a few states and don't exist anywhere else.

    Besides, I'm not so sure higher or lower percentages of the population are so directly correlated to prejudice rather than historical circumstances. Weren't Jews less than 1% of Germany in the 1930s?
     
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    Just a caveat to this story: I got to work this morning and did a little research and it seems the Henry County Report is kind of big on conspiracy theories. One of the folks that liked their FB page is Coast to Coast AM, so take that for what it's worth.

    https://www.facebook.com/The-Henry-County-Report-1457156354604370/

    Their main page is still overwhelmed with traffic, lots of people are posting the link, but thus far absolutely zero mainstream media have run a story.
     
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    Ha, it's not my map. And, every urban population ever has a higher percentage of minorities than the rest of the state. And, the map doesn't show they don't exist elsewhere, but it doesn't look misleading at all. Those percentages are accurate. The population of the County where I work is about 43% white, 54% black. The population of Georgia is about 59% white and about 31% black. The black population of the US is clustered together.

    I don't know either. But, I grew up in this area of Georgia. Most of the prejudice that I see in my friends or the business community, politicians, etc around here has absolutely zero correlation to slavery or love of the Confederacy or whatever else. Most of that prejudice is developed from what people experience TODAY, not from 160 years ago or because they're members of the KKK.
     
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    I have a friend that was a hiring manager for a company in Charleston SC. His boss told him that he was to not hire any people of color for any positions. When my friend told me this, I thought he was trying to tell a racial joke. There was no punch line. i know not everyone is like this. But I can't imagine my boss saying this to me.
     
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    And I have a friend from New England that uses more racial slurs than anyone I know. I would hope that this board is above throwing out anecdotal evidence to steer a discussion.
     
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    I know. I grew up in Southern Ohio. I thought racism was an accepted thing everywhere until I was probably 13. My parents never allowed it in our house, but everywhere else it was rampant in my community. I was just giving an example that shocked me when I heard it,
     
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    What the hell is that random chunk of African Americans in Alaska?
     
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    Well that's fucking wonderful. I can't wait until they do the same in New York. I drive down some pretty shady streets as I commute through Manhattan to and from an industrial area in Brooklyn.

    Time to start moving funds out of that joint account.