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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Kubla Kahn

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    Who said anything about the security apparatus ignoring threats? Ive not said or implied anything of the sort.

    They contacted him before without him winding up dead and no officers put in danger? They didn't just send him a strongly worded letter. He had a history of specific threats going back years. Somebody dropped the ball if they waited until hours before Joe Biden was set to be in the same city to roll up to arrest him. The FBIs tactics for dealing with these anti government types changed radically after Waco to defusion, with the people still arrested and charged without incident, they don't just stick their thumbs up their asses and move on.
     
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    It was amazing how he fell out of a window at 15 thousand feet.
     
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    I was really hoping I could find some sort of apartment building window that was photoshopped at 15k feet, kind of like the standard means of Putin's enemies having an accident or killing themselves.

    It was really funny in my head.
     
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    I was really surprised that they did it this way. The Russian government has been so blatant about the way they kill people, it's like their calling card now.

    I'm guessing he wouldn't get close to any building taller than one story; although, realistically, that wouldn't stop Russian thugs.
     
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    The Lord Of All Trolls returns on time, here to completely make his point about how dumb our society has become.
     
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    Fucking insanity.
     
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    There's two possibilities:

    1. He did this on his own, in which case the US is presently investigating how to force him to totally divest from SpaceX.
    2. He did this at the request of the State Department, in which case it appears that US policy was to avoid too much escalation, too quickly.
     
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    More like Russia pressured him to do it, I'd think. Between SpaceX and Starlink, I'd say Russia represents a shit-ton of potential revenue for both, especially compared to Ukraine.
     
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    I think this is the most likely. The US has been very careful to not provide Ukrainians with weapons or logistics that can strike deep within Russia, at least not until very recently.
     
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    That doesn't explain way earlier when he killed Starlink to Ukraine. Once it became known, he reluctantly turned it back on. That wasn't State Department driven. I think Putin is waving his dick in Elon's face and he can't help but try and suck it.
     
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    It absolutely could have been. From what I've gathered, the Ukrainians were attempting to outfit drones with Starlink to strike ships within Russia, which went against NATOs original support strategy. Even if that's not the case, I'm not sure why him initially not wanting to have his tech weaponized in a foreign war is controversial. It's not much different than when Google employees protested over Google developing AI for the military.

    Regular defensive contractors have to go through the US's foreign military sales program as an intermediary before equipment can reach their destination. Starlink is approaching a global monopoly on rocket launches and cutting-edge satellite technology, so an individual private citizen potentially having a dramatic impact on a war on the other side of the globe is a bit of a new thing that has rarely existed in history.

    I don't agree with it, but I get it.
     
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    So did the Indian government assassinate a Canadian citizen in Canada? What the fuck?
     
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    Sure looks like it, and my illustrious provincial government immediately jumped to the defense of the Indian government under the guise that damaging relations would damage trade. While that is true, in that we export lentils en masse to India, what my premier and trade minister seem to be intentionally forgetting is that a Canadian citizen was assassinated by a foreign government on our soil.
     
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    Yeah... and CSIS (our version of the CIA and FBI in one) even alerted him that something was brewing.

    All because he was pushing for a Sikh splinter group.

    https://apnews.com/article/canada-india-sikh-trudeau-modi-nijjar-fb390e4a45d167711db4f96681edd0a2


    Gotta love religion.
     
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    Consdering the fact that we're apparently all about supporting separtist movements, including the "government in exile of East Turkmenistan", I think this should really be hammered on. It'll give China a very broad reach if they don't chase it. I think it would be treated very differently if China assassinated a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil, and we should be treating this the same way. A lack of action will have very long term effects.
     
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    Canada should wax a Quebecois in New Delhi and call it even.