For fuck's sake. The fact I have to write a novel for you to follow me is a problem. The 1st Amendment is freedom of speech and press. When sued for libel or slander one must go through the court system to resolve it, thus confirming one's right to have used speech or press in that instance. How can you not follow that? You didn't LOSE anything, but you had to wait for the court system to file you through to fully close the matter. Due process applies to search and seizure and criminal proceedings and blah blah. You go to court to confirm whether or not those rights have been impeded or if you are guilty. Why is it such a burden to expand the background check from 5 days, to say 2 weeks for a more thorough check? Why is that so different than WAITING to go to court to ameliorate 1st, 4th or 10th amendment issues? Not all states have a 5 day waiting period either: http://smartgunlaws.org/category/state-waiting-periods-for-guns/page/5/ Nor are proper background checks done in all gun purchases, like through private sales. Oregon has a private gun sale background check on the books, but LEO won't enforce it: http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/08/oregon_gun_background_checks_w.html This shit is fuckin' cuckoo, so what do you propose? I'm tired of hearing do nothing.
It would be the same if you had to get court approval to speak, not for them to ok what had already been said.
Yes, but for full legal expression with impunity, you had to travel through some sort of legal channel in the types of cases I am mentioning. I also like how you ignored everything else to quibble on qualitative semantics.
I think you guys need to start understanding the point the other is making. Both are actually correct and have some good perspective that I dont think would disagree with one another.
Your whole post seemed geared to ask that question and I answered it. It's not semantics, there is a fundamental difference between exercising a right and then having to go through the legal system to determine if you're within your rights vs. having to go through the legal system to exercise a right.
I propose enforcing the laws we have with vigor. If that is actually done, then we can have serious conversations about which ones to replace or repair and which ones to add. Why aren't you as equally outraged enough to call it cuckoo shit for other things that are responsible for more deaths than guns? 440,000 people seems like a large number, which was the one reported for preventable hospital deaths in 2012. http://www.hospitalsafetyscore.org/...dleading-causeofdeathinus-improvementstooslow (It looks like there were 87,000 fewer preventable deaths in 2014, which is progress. http://www.ahrq.gov/professionals/q...AC&utm_content=65&utm_campaign=CUSP4CAUTI2015 )
And right on cue: Obama: 'We Don't Know' If San Bernardino Shooting Was Terrorist-Related http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-san-bernardino-shooting_56606292e4b072e9d1c4eb28 Because the most important thing right now is to toe the political line. It could be workplace violence. Because everyone who gets butthurt at work has a willing accomplice that he met online, from a hot bed of radical terrorism, tactical vests, IEDS, masks, a surplus of ammo, etc...ready to go at a moments notice, just in case. And so everything grinds to a halt, until the public is distracted by the next outrage. This is why nothing ever gets accomplished.
Well no, he does have be careful with that information. I have no love Obama whatsoever, but we cant just carelessly declare it as terrorism without facts supporting in case there are repercussions.
That doesn't stop "professionals" from shitting the bed: ...that is a "renowned" New York Times writer and author live-tweeting yesterday about the massacre. 700,000 followers. Not only is political correctness stupid and impulsive, it's dangerous.
Because we are talking about gun issues right now, not hospitals or automobile related deaths. That you bring up an apples and oranges correlation gives me pause that you don't actually care about the subject at hand. I have been yammering about health care and the profit system for a while now anyway. Yep. Remember last week some nutter riled up from media rhetoric shot the shit out of a clinic, and a few months ago another dingus angry at Muslims shot up a Sikh temple who aren't even Muslim. But they are brown, sooooo... I'm sure this will just bring us together for a good ole verse of Kumbaya M'Lord.
In other (better) news, the USA defence secretary just opened all armed forces combat jobs to women. It's a little sad this "step forward" is happening now instead of before, but it's happened nonetheless. I think it will be great when one day women being offered jobs doesn't qualify as ground-breaking news.
They are reporting that they had 12 pipe bombs in their apartment. I'm gonna go ahead and discount the idea of it being disgruntled workplace violence.
That's because everyone has a place to express themselves now. 15 years ago the only people that got their message out was Newspapers and TV stations. Now everyone can express themselves, and everyone else can read it. Everyone wants to express themselves, because they either are involved in group think or they fear the other sides message.
We have more info going now to blame radical Islam on this shooting than the PP shooting on right wing rhetoric. But it doesn't count because rethuglicans amiright?
It was my understanding that pretty much all combat jobs were open to women with a select few that weren't, only one I thought they weren't in was front line combat.
I agree that would be a good start but it won't happen. The problems we have are problems we deserve, we deserve this bullshit because we allow it to continue. We as a whole, not everyone on the individual level, refuse to pay attention to the real problems driving our country. We focus in on the issues at the margins and pay almost no attention to things going on that affect every single American. I put a post up the other day pointing to the Federal budget and most of the major programs, social programs, that are in or entering dire straits in terms of funding and there is no interest in discussing that stuff and it isn't just this board, it is this country as a whole. We deserve this. This is absolutely true and extends far beyond gun control. Why aren't we doing federal investigations of obvious cases of murder by law enforcement? Why aren't we enforcing the immigration policies we already have on the books? Why aren't we prosecuting white collar crime by Wall St.? Truthfully, I wonder though, can we vigorously enforce all of the laws? My guess is that the Government doesn't have the bandwidth to pull that off. Not to mention, I have a feeling that if we were vigorously enforcing all laws, we would find we are all guilty of something.