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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. downndirty

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    Think about the burden of proof they need to act. It's pretty fucking massive, and the potential fall out is huge.

    Also....why do we expect the FBI to stop each and every one of these? Like, the entire community, local cops, school cops, school officials....

    They build the profiles and do some of the analysis, but the idea that the feds swoop in because they have some magical insight that every other person in this child's life doesn't have is absurd to me.

    I think eventually the number of dead kids and parents who are scared to death of the shooter drills overwhelm the 2A argument, at least to some extent.

    I also think so much of this happens because men and boys are in crisis, and violence is how they express it.
     
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-school-shooting-suspect-colt-gray-what-we-know/

    He made some threats on a gaming messageboard, they investigate, he's not old enough to buy guns, his father said he didn't have access to any guns he had. I don't think the FBI, GBI, or Jackson County Sheriff has enough officers to follow him around every day for the rest of his life.
     
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    every one of us is "on their radar" because the government is aware of every one of us
     
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    I thought the law had recently been changed to make parents criminally responsible for their kids' gun misuse? It should be, in any case.
     
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    We've definitely set precedent that parents can be charged and convicted if they're found criminally negligent. I think there is definitely a possibility of that here, if the kid got the gun out of his own home. He made threats, safe firearm storage should have been a top priority for the father. If that kid didn't have to torch open a safe after being interviewed by the FBI, dad didn't do enough, IMO.

    I do feel like we've seen a reduction in a certain type of school shooting, but it's early in the era of charging parents, so tough to really tell. That being elementary through high-school, inside the campus, done by minors, during school hours. I think that is because we've sent several parents to prison for their roles in allowing shootings to happen. The Crumbleys, Deja Taylor, some other guy I read about who's name escapes me. We need to not let up, and keep making examples out of careless gun owning parents. I think university shootings has remained pretty consistent, because that age group can procure there own guns.

    I still want to know how Dylan Butler got his guns. Did they ever release that? I haven't found it.
     
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    What would be the point of strengthening gun control with red flag laws if the authorities don't bother to respond?
     
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    Oh, that father is going to prison, too. It's coming out that he bought the AR for the kid as a holiday present in December 2023. After they were both interviewed by the FBI. WTF goes on in some people's fucking heads?
     
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    Are you gonna say no to a 14 year old with an AR-15?
     
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    Well I'm not going to buy him an AR-15 in the first place.
     
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    You have to buy him the AR-15 because he's threatening you with an AR-15, and he's threatening you with an AR-15 because you bought him the AR-15. It's a causal time loop, like one of them fancy sci-fi movies.
     
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    You've watched way too many Christopher Nolan movies.
     
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    Get out of my head!
     
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    But what if a mass shooter walked into a IVF clinic? The mental gymnastics will fuel a perpetual motion machine.
     
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