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Can someone help me with this?

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  1. bewildered

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    Great at following instructions, wasn't he?

    In my husband's particular case, he would be jumping from one shitty big name corp for another. He needs new experience and title to grow his career and he isn't being allowed to do so with his current job.

    In theory this short term contract, due to their inability to fill it, should be more lucrative, right? I'm sure that depends on the job and company, but he has been told that they can't fill it and have seen big turnover due to people job hopping in the tech industries.

    They say they want to hire directly afterward. Maybe true or not. He has applied and is applying other places. This is the first thing that's come his way.
     
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    This may not be true. Recruiters often end up also placing the candidates in temp-to-hire positions. TEKsystems supplies contractors, as well as just placing recruited candidates. If that's the case, they may require personal information, since you're technically in the employ of TEKsystems.

    Source: was placed in my current job through TEKsystems.

    @bewildered there isn't a whole lot to know - TEKsystems is reputable, but like with all contractor placement firms and recruiters, quality varies by locale and the specific rep you're working with and the company they're hiring for. If Hubby is angling for a temp-to-hire position, he should be super clear with the company he interviews with about that; ask them what duration they expect before he gets a full-time offer, and if he interviews with non-management employees, he should ask if a lot of their coworkers are contractors. Some companies do this "temp-to-hire" thing basically forever, dangling full-time positions that don't exist or aren't approved.

    The reality is that TEKsystems is just a middle-man. They work with great companies, and with crap companies. When I first started at my company, they were terrible about hiring contractors - half the workforce was comprised of "temp" employees. They fixed that, and now they do temp-to-hire all the time, with a serious commitment to hire people who are decent.

    If you can swing the health insurance and have enough savings to cushion yourselves if his contract doesn't work out, it's a fine way to get your foot in the door. Any universal rule applied to them - like they only market crap jobs - is B.S. They get a cut of your pay; it behooves them to place you in the highest paying position they can. If you've got skills, they'll try and place you in a good job because it lines their pockets. I look at resumes from TEKsystems candidates regularly - if anything, they try to oversell their candidates into better positions than they're qualified for.

    What's his skillset?

    One thing to look out for is if they polish your resume, I've seen some instances where they've vastly inflated a candidate's skills without his knowledge - or, alternatively, have screwed up a resume with typos or incorrect line items. Make sure you see what resume they're sending to companies.
     
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    @Binary that was helpful info.

    He's at a data center doing network deployment with some specialty project type experience. I'm not an expert in the lingo or job duties. He's open to various career tracks but is looking mostly into technical project management as his next jump, since he's done a huge chunk of the duties for already. The job title for that type of work varies a lot by company.

    He'll have to get a copy of what they are sending off. That would be interesting to see.
     
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    The specific recruiter you worked with asked for your personal information or was it when you onboarded with them as a contractor/T2H? More generally, if it’s the former, that’s a red flag and a pretty well-known recruiting scam.
     
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    Project managers who are technical and know the subject matter are gold for engineering teams. Does he have his PMP cert?

    Check on the resume thing. I had one candidate where I junked his resume without interviewing him - it was almost 10 pages long despite 5-6 years of experience and you couldn't parse out what he was good at. In a roundabout way from the recruiter I found out that the candidate was kind of pushed into an extensive and stupid rewrite of his resume to include every technology he ever even heard about. In that case the candidate knew but sometimes they'll make tweaks and not tell you. But that's only a big deal if you're not getting interviews.

    If he is getting interviews, just make sure you're asking about their contract-to-hire timelines. One nice thing about contract-to-hire is you get to try out the company as well so there's less pressure on ferreting out every obnoxious shitty part about working for them. Like I said, it's a pretty decent way to get hired by a big company if you can deal with the interim lack of benefits and pay uncertainty. A lot of companies do contract-to-hire so they don't get stuck with a shitty candidate who just interviews well.
     
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    @Clutch he has only interacted with the Teksystems guy so far. The next step is interview with the company hiring manager.

    It wouldn't surprise me they they have had trouble filling the job. The location is kind of a remote location, like the one we are in now. That is a common problem with data centers in general. They are able to make deals with small town govs to build cheaply, supplied with cheap water and power, but they often have staffing issues.
     
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    I mean, you shouldn't email your social security number and bank account info to AwesomeRecruiter5647@gmail.com. I'm just saying that the recruiting company may be headhunters, in which case they're just placing you with a company, or they may be doing contract-to-hire, in which case you're working for the recruiting company for a period.
     
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    He paid a resume writer on Fiverr to rewrite it to get thru the word filters. It looks good. He actually has a couple versions depending on the job type being applied for.

    He was contacted by the Teksystems guy because hubs' info was given to the recruiter by his friend, who got employment thru the same Teksystems guy.

    @Binary no he does not have his pmp.
     
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    Yep, I'm regularly surprised at the poor quality of resumes that come from recruiters. As a recruiter, it's in their best interests to represent the candidate optimally, so it always seems ridiculous to me that I ever get resumes of insane length, or with obvious mistakes, or poor formatting, or whatever.

    I've got nearly 2 decades of relevant experience on my resume and it's 2 pages long. These dickheads think I'm going to parse a bunch of 10+ page resumes from candidates with 4 years of experience to fill a mid-level position? Nope. It's not even exactly about the length; it's just that you do not need 10 pages to tell me what you're good at, which means most of that is filler, and it's impossible to get through that much information to parse out where your actual expertise lies. If you tell me what you're really good at, I will know if you can learn the rest.

    I partly blame these automated programmatic screening systems that companies use. It makes everyone want to list everything for fear that one keyword is missing and their resume will get rejected. But still, there's only so many topics you can cover in an interview. I'm going to pick a few from your resume - if I pick 4-5 topics and you keep telling me you aren't that knowledgeable about that thing that was on your resume, what am I supposed to do?
     
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    Regarding resume length, could those pushing for longer resumes have more experience filling federal government positions?

    The government wants to know if you earned a gold star for potty training. My federal resume is about 14 pages and includes information I'd never include on a 2 page industry resume.
     
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    I usually find those ultra-long resumes to be 90% padding.because they don’t have stand-out skills, so they carry on about those few times they did something of note at one of their many jobs.

    I’ve seen some pretty damn hilarious resumes too. My favourite was hand-written on lined paper and under “Skills” he (literally) wrote that he knew how to operate both gas AND electric lawn mowers, had a blue belt in BJJ. He was applying to be a machine builder.
     
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    FWIW, the PMP cert took me two weeks, with one of those being a boot camp, a long weekend to study for the test, and the rest of that time doing PMI's documentation. I'd imagine $2k for a bootcamp isn't out of range these days, and I can probably make a call and get some kind of referal discount.

    Folks in his industry can speak to whether or not it's worth it, but I think they've gotten to the point where it's not as difficult as it used to be.
     
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    Commercial zoning issue:

    Little bit of a backstory- My shop building is about ~6000sqft and was built in 1960. There is a nonstructural wall in the middle of the building bisecting the shop into halves. Both "sides" are identical in size, bathroom and office locations. I can't find any original city plans/permits for the building so I have no idea if that wall has always been there or not but the other "half" has a different address than my shop does. Let's say my shop is 1357 Main Street and the other shop(half) is 2468 Main St.

    1357 is zoned for collision repair. 2468 is zoned for mechanical work. I tried to take over 2468 for more collision space but the county denied me because it's zoned for mechanical.

    What I can't find is any county/state records that list what the square footage is for each address. When I look at the parcel number, it just says there are two addresses assigned to this parcel. What I'm wanting to do is to remove the door from the office to the shop in 2468, essentially taking that side from 3000sqft to a 350sqft office. Then take over the rest of the square footage as 1357. If the county comes asking about 2468, I can point to the office that has own access, it's own utilities and it's own address.

    I don't know if anyone here has that kind of experience or could point me in the right direction.
     
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    I used to be the rezoning guy at my old engineering company, pretty much did all rezoning tasks and board meetings for years. Care to post the address, or pm it to me, so I know exactly what I'm looking at?

    Rezoning something the way you describe should be a slam dunk, meaning they shouldn't turn you down, but there could be some mapping required by a Surveyor and a zoning board meeting you would have to attend to get approval. It's not like you're trying bake cupcakes next to a body shop, preventing stuff like that is why zoning exists.
     
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    I should've mentioned that I'm grandfathered in for this area. They're trying to "beautify" the area. There's about 15 different types of businesses that won't get approved here anymore. Check cashing, liquor stores, gun shops, mech shops, tire shops, body shops, thrift stores etc.

    I'll PM you
     
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    I'm in Canada, so things are probably different here, but I have to deal with the city and the county quite a bit for permits. Let me know if you need a second set of eyes on things.

    Also, if you have a connection at City Hall or some other reason to reach out to that department, I've found if the staff knows you to be friendly and forthright you get stuff pushed through way quicker. It shouldn't matter, but it does. Your ideal situation is the most junior person with the authority to approve it sees it, has not issue with it, says yes and doesn't move it farther up the chain. What you don't want is the whole of counsel having a say or this thing going to vote; usually the voting happens every other month and it can really delay issues. Especially if you have a neighbour who decides they don't like the exterior light or something.
     
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    Anyone have any experience with water rowing machines? As stupid as the name is, I'm looking at the Mr. Captain water rower. Generally has positive reviews for both build quality and longevity.
     
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    I do not have experience with water rowers. However, a year ago, I decided that I wanted to do rowing as my workout.
    I have yet to buy one because of financial obligations, house purchase, etc.

    BUT - I did a lot of research, and I’m definitely going to get a Concept2 rower.
    The reasons being:
    -not really much more expensive than other models I was looking at ($900)
    -they are lightweight and durable (last decades)
    -the monitor is very very precise and matches real world numbers (used by all levels of rowing teams for indoor training).
    The drawback is they can get majorly back-ordered because it’s so popular.

    I started watching this dude’s videos, and while he’s annoying in the YouTube way, he knows his shit. Maybe this can help you decide on some models:
     
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    Thanks for weighing in. I'll definitely give that one a look and check out some other reviews as well. Seems like it would probably be worth the extra few hundred bucks.
     
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    I have a Concept2 rower and can vouch that they're worth their weight in gold. I bought mine off someone that had used it a couple of years and it still felt brand new. There's a reason they are far and away the best option out there if you want one. And if you end up NOT liking it, you can turn around and sell it for full price, even if it's used.