Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Except for all the Lowe's and Total Wine shopping trips you've done.

I'm not calling you out because you're doing these things. I'm saying tone down the threats and insults to others.

 

I don’t recall where I’ve ever insulted someone or especially threatened them.

as far as Lowe’s and total wine, yes, I limit my travel to those three places plus the local academy, tractor supply and grocery store, due to their safety protocols and sanitation practices I’ve personally witnessed. They spray down the shopping carts with sanitizing solution before you use them, the building is open and well ventilated, and they enforce distancing everywhere. I’ve personally seen total wine, Lowe’s, academy and the grocery store refuse entry to people for not wearing a mask.

... wait, you mean where I said I wanted to slap people for saying they don’t want to wear a mask because it was impeding on their rights? Well yeah, that was obviously tongue firmly in cheek, but it does drive me crazy. I believe it was one of the heads of the cdc that recently said if we all wore a mask when we went out this would be largely gone in 4-6 weeks. I’m not sure there exists a solid argument against wearing a mask out in public, unless you have a medical issue it exacerbates, in which case stay home.

 

I didn't mean you threaten someone in particular, but you talked about slapping the"muh rights" people in the post I quoted the first time.

I just typed the word idiots into the search bar and there you are, calling people idiots.

We've just got a little pot-kettle situation going on.

 

yes, the people who don’t want to wear masks to Walmart, or any other place, are idiots, or at the very least disrespectful. It’s potentially dangerous to others and, as we’re learning about viral loads and how masks can actually protect the user to an extent, potentially harmful to themselves as well.

I don’t get it what you’re upset about. I think we’re arguing the same thing here? I wear a mask when I go out in public and don’t take it off until am back in my vehicle and have sanitized my hands. Now, if I didn’t wear a mask, or knowingly went out when I was feeling ill, then I would be a hypocrite and deserving of every bit of ridicule coming my way. But I don’t. So what’s the problem?

 

Do you even know what a pot-kettle situation is?

Revenge has taken the time to explain that even with his traveling and shopping that he was taking reasonable precautions and that somehow makes it so he can't find the nomaskers abhorrent?

And the nomask, antivax, plandemic, qanon dumbfucks do need some sense slapped into them.

They are a danger to the public.

If they were flat earthers or moon landing "skeptics" they would at least be harmless dumbfucks.

 

I think people just have a hard time of accurately accessing risk. I've taken every necessary and reasonable precaution. Nothing I have done or will do will put myself, my family, or especially others at undue risk. The example I like to use is: we're at greater risk driving in the vehicle to the airport, and from the airport to the house in Florida (where we will stay exclusively for a week, except to travel via boat to restaurants where they serve dockside). The cigar I just had probably put me at greater risk. Though I understand if people see me say something about traveling, and assume I'm stopping everywhere along the way. But if I can't go somewhere and back on a tank of gas, then I'm not going (even though filling up with gas alone is not in and of itself a risky act, unless you're smoking a cigarette while you're doing it).

Here is a helpful COVID-19 risk infographic. Of those, I haven't done anything in the "high risk" category, and the only thing that's close is being on an airplane, the risks of which I have mitigated as much as reasonably possible.

 

I don't care that you travel, you can go wherever you want. I just don't think you should cast stones over one recommendation, the wearing of masks, while flouting another recommendation, unnecessary travel.

I'm not saying you're unsafe, I'm not saying don't travel. You talking shit about other people when doing something that is also not recommended IS hypocrisy. It's about as perfect a match to the definition as there is.

 

I’ve given an answer to every thing asked of me regarding this. I even detailed how and why traveling, in these select instances, was able to be done so without placing undue harm on others or myself, and my family and others in a position of unnecessary risk.

So now it’s the act of traveling, in a safe manner while following all necessary protocols, that is in and of itself the problem? Look in the sky. Every single person on those airplanes is in the same position. Every person you see on tv, from the president to the scientists, travels on an airplane and is exposed to others and exposes others to them. In fact, there’s a very easy argument to be made that while I am not harming others to travel, the president’s words when he travels to use them present an actual, tangible, documented harm. There are stats to back it up. People are able to fly on those planes, in a relatively safe manner, because they act safe. Sure, there might be a small minority of people flaunting the safety procedures, but in any given day there is a small minority of people not wearing seatbelts when they drive too.

I simply don’t see what else you want. But as the goalposts once again move, and I go from being called someone who threatens others and calls them names, to now being called a hypocrite, I am once again happy to back that up with logic and a complete refutation, with the only thing being harmed being your feelings.

It is possible to travel in a safe manner, following the current safety protocols. You just have to not be an idiot about it. Sorry I was unable to put it in a black and white, yes/no manner for you, but the reality of this situation, like most everything you encounter in life, resides in this middle ground anyway. I.e. Can you travel? “Yes, but....” Should you travel? “You can, if....”

 

I can't even imagine this. How are you still sane? I go to work every day, have a yard to run around in, pool to swim in, go to dinner when I can, gone hiking etc and I'm still going stir crazy.

 

that’s rough. Yeah from the people I’ve talked to it’s the opposite down here. A bunch of 1/3 to 1/2 full flights, no one takes the middle, they can barely cover their fuel costs kinda deal. Of course that’s not what you see on social media and the doom and gloom news, because showing easy flying doesn’t get viewers which doesn’t get ad dollars. The reality is, from what the people I’ve personally known who have experienced it, is that those full flights and crowded airports are very few and far between.

We’ll see though

 

I feel sorry for airlines losing money the same way I feel sorry for Serbian war criminals being arrested. The former being nearly as morally repugnant than the latter.

 

i feel bad to the extent that I’m worried another bailout... sorry, I mean “stimulus” is coming before November.

 

What they need to do is re-regulate the airlines (And ticket prices) like in the old days, where they had to compete with each other based on good service alone.

Back then you were provided a service by true professionals, instead of today’s standards of having some low-IQ glorified vending machine in heavy make-up threatening to eject you from the flight for “being rude”.

 

You've seen my posts on this board. Do you really think I'm sane?

 

Here's how serious a lot of people take the risk: I talked to a woman in AZ (Cases spiking) today and scheduled her two kids (Ages 2 and 5) to have their teeth cleaned.

I then informed her that masks were required for the appointments and that only one adult could accompany them into the office. She threw a fit. "That's to difficult, cancel the appointments."

To reiterate, she was perfectly fine taking her toddlers out in public for a non essential reason, but she drew the line because the office is limiting people in the area and making them wear masks.

I deal with morons like this every day and oddly enough the majority of them are in FL, AZ, TX, CA and NV. All states that are spiking. Imagine that.

Also, last night there was a stabbing here in town at a house party with 200+ people. I'm sure they were all social distancing and wearing masks.....

 

Way more responsible to stay six feet away and shoot them instead.

 

Fire will work for this scenario. Have you ever watched “Come And See”?