New daily record of 125,000 cases. We moving this thread to the "permanent" section or nah? Fucking fuck fuck.
Two weekends ago I was invited to a 50th birthday party that included a full open bar and free food. When I heard that dozens of people were going and the party was being moved to an indoor space at a local restaurant I decided not to go. This is exactly the recipe for spreading this virus. I found out two days ago that several people, maybe half a dozen, are symptomatic and tested positive for COVID since that party.
Who are these people?!? I know people who have created "bubbles" of a few households, or people who feel comfortable eating outside at a restaurant, but I don't know ANYONE personally who is going about life business as usual. I know they exist, I just don't know them and also I hate them. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I have been unmasked indoors with people I don't live with since March, and all of those occasions were between June and August when cases were relatively low here. I was really hoping that we could get a handle on things before the cold dark times but it looks like it's gonna be a really shitty winter. I've been having weekly dinners outside, distanced with a small group of friends but that just gets a lot less fun once the temps drop below 40 degrees.
Where do you people live? They only thing limiting people around me still is the 10 pm bar curfew and the local bar industry has been pressuring the governor to over turn that.
Not smart—- Not that honestly I would ever want to hurt or knock it, The bar industry helped create a second worse wave of the virus around here. Too much mixing and booze loosens the cares you have. I love bars, always will. But this threat isn’t that you’ll get sick from going home with the wrong stranger at last call, this is a threat where you could possibly get sick just from walking in the door. This could create the industry of the backyard speakeasy. We shall see.
I know this is happening already. Hell bar tenders have always had private after hours bars they went to after their shift. Now they just invite more friends.
Looks like British Columbia has recognized that people will break out if they don't set up social groups and are allowing for "bubbles" to continue to socialize during the next phase when you're not part of a large household. Hopefully that'll keep the pressure down a bit by lowering the depression and cabin fever people were getting with the first round of things.
Fuck I'm glad Australia and NZ for all the issues they've had have for the most part handled this pandemic well. There could have been improvements for sure but overall my life has barely been affected at all. I feel for you guys over there.
Only 90% effective? I've seen this plot somewhere else... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Legend_(film) *Edit This was supposed to be sarcastic, but I think people took it seriously. I don't think the vaccine is going to turn people in zombies, and I'll gladly take it to help get things relatively back to normal around the world.
If the vaccine is 90% effective and you need 70% immunity for herd immunity, then you need 77.78% coverage with the vaccine, which feels achievable.
Fauci has said that they were hoping for 55% or so... to have it come anywhere near close to 90% is pretty damn awesome. Here's hoping it passes peer review, etc.
Flu vaccines generally don’t work well at all, providing this isn’t complete bullshit it’s something.
I agree, but something this big is probably not something they will do a PR/Marketing spin on I think... it would fall apart too fast with too many repercussions. They're trying to save lives of entire countries' populations, not "hey we can regrow your hair or make your dick hard".
Though to be fair, those are noble pursuits. My opinion since early in the pandemic was that development of a vaccine would be faster than anticipated because this is similar enough to the flu strains we see every year , and we already the vaccine producing infrastructure in place. If this process had actually taken the 18 months first projected I would have been surprised.
But we don't... and it also depends on how the vaccine is made... not all vaccines are made the same way. They've been manufacturing that infrastructure for months in prep for having a vaccine... we have nowhere near the infrastructure to handle a pandemic like this. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01063-8
SUPPLY and demand. That article makes brilliant and terrifying points: what’s stopping the richest nations from buying up and hoarding all vaccine supplies once it’s on market?