The PBS new program Frontline broadcast a piece on China's handling of the Covid 19 outbreak. It's excellent if you have 90 minutes to watch it.
Another big thing with this I didn’t realize until it was too late: make sure you have a system in place BEFORE you get sick to deal with everything who’s gonna bring you food? Who’s gonna get groceries? Do you have meds or kiddos at school that might need to be picked up in a hurry? Who’s gonna deal with that? fortunately I have a lot of family nearby and by wife was able to coordinate the efforts while our house was basically radioactive. But when shit hit the fan, it did so immediately, and in a very bad way. When I had to call my doctor, and ended up getting an inhaler, steroids, and antiviral, not everyone was available (able — some were at risk) to go pick them up at the pharmacy. It took a concerted effort from both sides of my family and people dropping off meals on our front porch daily because my wife was too busy balancing kiddos and keeping me from actively wanting to die. the CDC called me yesterday to contact trace, offer advice, but also offer resources — apparently if you have covid and need help with medicine delivery, grocery delivery, food, whatever, you can contact them and they will provide assistance too. Either way, get your plan together now. This shit isn’t going away anytime soon.
That's one of the first things we did among neighbors nearly a year ago. No questions asked, we go get food, medicine, whatever any of us need to get through the quarantine period.
I'm glad you are feeling better Nerds, but you didn't die from this China Flu so your experience is just another 5G myth being spread by the DemonRats. Being serious, Nerds not dying from this is a reason some people are more than happy to show the statistics of people in their 30's having a 99.7% chance of survival and hand waving any measures to keep people safe. It's actually pretty gross when you think about it in those terms. I get it, it's not especially lethal to a large part of the population and it's not like the chicken pox where you are itchy for a few days and then it's over, but it's a new disease which is pretty fucking terrible. You'd think, bare minimum, people would be understanding some things need to be done to help mitigate the spread.
completely agree. “I didn’t die” and reducing that to a survivability statistic is completely overlooking the realities of it. I was telling my wife earlier, that thank god for me already having PTSD when this hit, and had my prior brain tumor experience in the hospital, because I was able to compartmentalize and deal with things as they arose clinically. Like go into the emergency trauma “do this then that then this” mindset that I’ve learned over the years. If I was worrying about the symptoms instead of focusing on the important things — my vitals, namely — it’d be an absolute emotional wreck. Hell I’m 8 days out and I still feel like I perpetually got finished exercising. But my heart rate and oxygen levels are great so just deal with it, rest, fluids and move on. I am 100% worried what the long tail of this is gonna look like. The people left with lasting emotional trauma, long term or permanent physical side effects and the potential rash of suicides that all might cause. Millions will die from covid alone. I’m worried that tens of millions will eventually die from what covid does to them and their families over the long term.
The thing I worry about now is the financial cost to people who have caught and survived COVID. Not just in the here is your bill because we had to treat this long term problem but in the your premiums are going up by 500% because of what might happen to you in a decade.
would it be covered as a pre-existing condition? This might not be apples to apples, but at least when I signed up for life insurance, they said my brain tumor was irrelevant because it was a medical event over 10 years prior to enrollment in the insurance.
That's the problem we don't really know, like I know what the morally correct answer is, but I know that people have worked very hard to remove pre-existing protections from the ACA and to just destroy it entirely and the one thing that COVID presents that is unique is the scientific uncertainty of the long term effects. With a brain tumor or cancer or breaking a leg we have a very clear idea of what a person's medical future could look like. But COVID could be so many things and we just can't say what the odds really are. I think that you guys need socialized healthcare that is at least a good as the pretty good system Canada has. By every measure what you currently have costs more, protects less and destroys a family's mental health with its very structure.
And of course, what those people don't include is the studies that are showing many people, many of whom were totally healthy and some of whom were completely asymptomatic, who now have lungs that resemble lifelong smokers, or hearts that look like people with congenital heart disease. "Not dying" doesn't mean people had a positive outcome. But it's okay, as long as you're not mildly inconvenienced or had some imaginary freedom being trod upon.
thats why I fully intend to go to the doctor and get them to at least check out my lungs as soon as I can. If there’s shit wrong, I wanna know and start taking care of it
I'm curious what the actual uptick on fatalities is going to be for 2020 (and, I guess, 2021). The deaths "from Covid" will be through the roof, but dying with Covid vs from Covid are two very different things. There will likely be almost no flu deaths. And the amount of drug deaths, suicides, domestic violence murders, etc. will be off the charts (but not listed explicitly as "from Covid"). The only way we'll know the true mortality of this thing is in several years when they can look back at census data and compare 2020 to 2019. Then we'll have the raw number of death increases that will actually include the collateral damage that the economic trauma is causing.
They'll be up, but they'll be dwarfed by actual COVID deaths. The 2008 financial crisis, in which people were losing jobs and homes by the minute, lead to 5k excess suicides over the next decade in the United States. COVID has hit 100x that within a year.
got an appointment with my GP to make sure my lungs are okay on the 9th, literally the first available appointment the day after my CDC-mandated quarantine ends. Having a great doctor who can get you in quick is a fucking godsend
y'all the recovery on this stuff is some fucking bullshit. It's now day 10, and this morning I felt that I had enough energy to go for a walk. Made it a quarter mile just around the house, heart rate peaking at 92 bpm, promptly came inside and took a 4 hour nap. Breathing has greatly improved but it's still not ideal. Taste and smell come and go. Migraines are constant. Mental fog is still very much a thing. Thank god for CBD + melatonin otherwise the insomnia would be horrible. I laugh that the common refrain is about survivability rates being so high for my demographic (young 30s, healthy, no underlying conditions). Like yeah we survive, but isn't there a range between "good as new" and "well at least he didn't fucking die"?
If you're anything like me, it's going to hang on for 2-3 weeks after it's "Over." I was probably still feeling mild residual effects a month or two later.