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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Revengeofthenerds

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    they weren’t rushed, they were a priority.

    There’s a difference.
     
  2. kindalas

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    Science moves very quickly when scientists aren't spending 90% of their time asking for money.

    At a more relatable level how quickly can you fix an engine if you don't have to wait for permission to order parts and you don't have to wait for the parts to arrive?
     
  3. Nettdata

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    And yet here we are in Canada without any "Warp Speed". The rest of the world doesn't have Warp Speed. But we do have the vaccines, and we didn't skip any safety measures.

    Emergency Use Authorization was utilized for the testing process, but that does not mean it was what I consider to be "rushed". A "rushed" job implies carelessness. I would consider the vaccines to be "expedited".

    And, given the alternatives of people dying, and the already known insane short term effects of COVID, and the long term effects becoming better known over time, an expedited vaccine is very much my personal preference.
     
  4. Juice

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    Any of its better than what the EU has in place. Their insane bureaucracy has significantly handicapped their roll-out.
     
  5. sisterkathlouise

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    Plus, as more data comes out about the vaccines, it all just keeps looking better and better. Consistently high efficacy, even against most new strains, low post vaccination transmission, low incidence of serious reaction, the list goes on. The "no long term data" argument feels particularly weak to me since this is a novel virus and therefore long term data won't exist, you know, for a long time, either about the vaccine OR the virus.
     
  6. Nettdata

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    Never mind variants. At what point do the variants morph away from the initial strain so much that the vaccines become less effective, or not effective at all?

    There is a window here that has to be seized.

    All I can think of is that this is just the first one, and there will be more in the near future. A year? 5 years? We need to get our shit together on the science and manufacturing side of things to be able to detect and react to these things faster.

    That, and stop eating road kill bats for lunch.
     
  7. Nettdata

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    We're now back in "emergency lockdown" as the ICU's are filling back up, with more and more young people. The numbers are getting worse, due to the new variants that are transmitting much faster and apparently hitting harder.
     
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    LOL, I think I'm offended. Hey, @dixiebandit69, you knuckle dragging mechanic, do you understand it now that @kindalas has dumbed it down for us? Is this what being offended feels like?
     
  9. Kubla Kahn

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    No.
     
  10. Nettdata

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    Did he just assume the colour of your collar? The NERVE!
     
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    Think of it this way: It's a lot easier to fuck your sister when you're not having to deal with your dad screaming about how it's "his turn."
     
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    Did you just assume I have a sister?!? AND that I knew my daddy?!?
     
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    It was the Autism it was the 5g signal.
     
  14. Nettdata

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    Truth. But it's OK, all the cool kids are getting The 5G.

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  15. dixiebandit69

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    When people talk out of their ass about cars, it makes me laugh.

    If I install a wrong/ defective part on an engine, there's no chance that the engine will grow extra cylinders.
     
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    The inner fender might.
     
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    You can easily go from 4.3 to 5.7 by adding a pair of cylinders, but you might want to swap the engine mounts when you do that because the 4.3 mounts are jelly because that V6 vibrates like crazy.
     
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    I think Dodge's v6 and either the 318 or 360 v8s we're the same way, same bore size. That's what my pappy told me, anyway.
     
  19. dixiebandit69

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    318 has the smaller bore size, 3.9__", not the 4" bore of the 360, and a shorter stroke.

    Mopar added two cylinders to the 360 to make the 8.0l V10, just like Ford added two cylinders to the 5.4l V8 to make the 6.8l V10.
    Both V10s are surprisingly disappointing in performance, at least in truck applications (the only ones I've gotten to drive).

    What I said was "adding a part" to an existing engine, not replacing the whole engine: ie: introducing a vaccine to an existing organic organism, not replacing the whole organism.

    It wasn't a very good comparison from the beginning.

    What really concerns me are long-term side-effects, AND if this vaccine (or updates) will need to be reapplied every year/ season.

    For the record, I've never had a flu-shot. I think they're bullshit.
     
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    I’d just like to point out that there’s a reason you’ve never had smallpox, rubella or polio. And probably haven’t had mumps or measles either.

    It’s because vaccines aren’t bullshit.