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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Crown Royal

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    Anna Sidorova is a reason to watch curling. She’s the only reason you would need.
     
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    Second day in a row at the gym (taking tomorrow off to give my body a break). To put it simply: I am fucking amazed at what one shot has done for my long-covid. Endurance is not an issue, like at all. I've still retained some basic level of strength, and now I can jack up my heart rate without sucking for air. My lungs are fine, and neurologically I'm comfortable. I still have my second dose in about a week, but already I can tell that I'll get back to at least some semblance of where I was prior, and certainly with a greater appreciation for life in general.

    Juxtapose that with someone working on our house right now -- one of our AC units is broken -- who told me his cousin just died from covid. He thinks the crazy alcohol consumption is what put the guy over the edge, but my guess would be that if you're that far into alcohol issues, you have some other stuff going on as well.
     
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    Why do you think that? Maybe you're confusing me with someone else?

    I was worried about it to the extent that it impacted my job, and the people I know and care about. But individually, I took all the necessary precautions (not enough apparently haha) and didn't give it much thought as far as impacting me specifically in a horrible way. I honestly thought if I got it I would just be asymptomatic and that'd be it, because I was in such good shape and my immune system was so strong.

    As for how it affected me, there were massive and documented issues. A lot of neurological stuff sure, but also on my blood work -- it wrecked me, specifically my liver, and I had to clear that hurdle before I was certain that I would survive. Once it got down to just the neurological stuff like breathing when my HR elevated, fatigue, smell, that kinda thing, then I was in the clear as far as surviving and was totally cool with just continuing on like that. Obviously, I'm happy those issues are gone, but I could have been dead, so it was easy to have perspective.

    I'm sure anything is possible, but the morning when everything changed, it started with me smelling my morning coffee and I was jumping for joy around the house. It was a very, very dramatic change. Akin to the moment during my brain surgery recovery with the fluid in my brain (I was severely hydrocephalic) drained and I woke up without a crippling migraine for the first time in months. I knew instantly then that something very substantial had occurred, as I knew the morning two days after my first vaccine dose.
     
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    I've been curious about this in the past. The talk of diffuse liver, heart, neurological damage related to COVID. How many people out there had reliable and/or recent scans as a baseline, let alone any baseline at all prior to a COVID diagnosis? Without a baseline how do you know it's not a symptom of lifestyle?

    I got COVID back in April, thought it was allergies until I lost taste and smell, guess I got lucky, they came back and I don't seem to have any lasting effects. At this point, I'm in no rush to get vaccinated. I'm thinking this fall I'll have serology testing done and make decision from there.
     
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    speaking only for myself, thanks to that little brain tumor issue, I have probably more complete bloodwork history in the past 14 years than anyone here. Or at least I would be in rarified air. Not only that, but I also have baseline brain MRI scans and CT scans for the rest of my body going back that far too. The goal is for them to have that baseline, and then when/if something ever goes wrong again (like a tumor, god forbid), be able to catch it immediately. So when covid happened to me, it was a simple matter of "let's do all the blood work/scans now instead of late august on the anniversary date." Then they did the blood work again, and again, and again, over the past few months, to track the damage and if it was recovering or getting worse based upon different treatments plus time.
     
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    It's still being studied, but for example, do you believe that 78% of patients who contracted COVID-19 had undiagnosed, asymptomatic abnormal heart conditions prior to contracting the disease?

    Does 20-50% of the population have undiagnosed, asymptomatic liver issues? Because depending on the study, 20-50% of patients with COVID have liver abnormalities. Statistically, it makes no sense. It's similar to looking at the "excess mortality" rates: these cases have not been diagnosed as COVID-related deaths. It could be that, in 2021, hundreds of thousands of people above the statistical average up and died from non-COVID causes. But if that's the case, you need a compelling argument for why that would happen.

    In addition to the statistical reasoning, the virus' behavior (scientists hate it when you anthropomorphize viruses and bacteria but whatever) can be studied. In the case of this Coronavirus, it has an affinity for some of the receptors in liver and heart cells. You can also study concentrations of the virus in organs for autopsied patients to determine some of the more significantly affected organs.

    Neurological damage is easier to measure in retrospect.
     
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    wouldn't surprise me at all if they were trying this shit out as a form of undetected population control, then it accidentally got out. I'm sure we mess with stuff like that (though not as population control) in the US and Canada too, just to see if we can. Just, we don't let it get out, and if it does, we don't cover it up and delay the rest of the world's response.
     
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    It's possible, but the receptor it has an affinity for is a common receptor among several types of cells in your body, so it's not like it was arbitrarily going after totally unrelated organ cell types.

    I still don't think I've seen enough evidence that this is an engineered virus.

    As a Bills fan, this makes me a sad panda. Beasley is a fucking moron.
     
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    49 year old UK patient chose to halt treatment after 14 months in the ICU. Died within 90 minutes.
     
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    UK, aren't they dealing with the variant from their former colony? And poorly at that?
     
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    I got my first vaccine today (Moderna). Probably one of the earlier people < 65 to get it in Japan who didn't go back to the US/Canada just to do so. I went for a 5km run today and it sucked. My arm hurts, my neck is really stiff, and I just feel...weird? My splits were shit. I felt like I was really pumping out the jams only to see the splits and they were my average times. Hopefully I feel better in the next couple of days.
     
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    If he was admitted into the ICU originally for covid then it wouldn’t be the variant I’d guess.

    One of the big stories that hasn’t got much traction here yet is Chinas major port city has gone back into lock down. My company’s purchaser gave me a run down last week that anything that isn’t already on a container at sea we are looking at September at the earliest before it is put on the water on their end. The factories give us estimates based on when they leave the factories’ doors so those are now worthless. Fucked our shit up just like last year.
     
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    congrats! And it will. Aside from some lingering arm soreness, I don’t know anyone who’s gotten one of the mRNA ones that has any long term (week plus) issues. And I have a fairly large sample size of people who’ve gotten it. I’d feel very confident saying you should be good to go by wed, end of the week absolute max. It only lasted me a day w Pfizer.
     
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    I just read that the new Delta Variant causes headaches and a runny nose. I've had that all weekend. Time to get tested I guess.
     
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    How embarrassing would it be if your cuddler gave you Covid?