Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Funny how things flip flop so radically. Seems to be increasing with the insane partisan divides. During the ACA debates liberals painted Big Pharma as greed driven evil uber capitalist whose profit motive was antithetical to the very concept of what healthcare should be (the concept of for profit healthcare is still seen as the ultimate boogeyman). These are the same companies that fuck with patent law and chemical compounds to jack the prices to insane eyepopping levels indefinitely (see EpiPens and their patented delivery device that was used as justification to charge 600 bucks for something that in liquid form is pennies on the dollar). Some very legitimate beefs to have against that industry as if it's all just altruistic scientist.

The original antivaxxers were coastal liberals that subscribed to this notion and the "unnatural" nature of producing chemicals in a lab over crunchy homeopathic remedies. The Republicans were the business friendly champions of how glorious our system was compared to the rest of the world, and only if we could cut more FDA red tape we could lower prices and advance science that much faster. Enter Donald Trump [insert/ joker "and everybody loses their minds meme /]. Trump cuts the red tape and Republicans are suddenly all in favor of multi decade human trials.

I fell into the former right leaning folk I just didnt waiver when the red tape was cut. I got it because the drugs our pharmaceutical companies produce are the envy of the world. Im a very humanist in our primacy over nature. My doctor made it a very simple equation. Your chances of having a bad case of covid are low, the risk of side effects from the vax is even lower, the vax can reduce the likelihood of the first part even more. Seemed like wearing a condom even though your girl is on birth control, just multiplies the odds even lower.

Im not too knowledgeable about the liability the government waived for Big Pharma with these. I get the trepidation though. Now the odds are low but I think the lay persons objection is "I wont have any recourse if some unforeseen complication fucks me?" Im not talking about cooking the numbers now to rush something to the market or negligence in some sloppy factory producing tainted vials. The fear is, "What if it turns out in 10 years or 20 the vaccines effect on your immune systems response to do x,y,z, attacks sperm cells and renders you impotent and infertile (honestly think this is the true deep seated fear), or messes up your menstrual cycle, or blood clots, etc?" I guess it'll just fall back on the government to pick up the tab? I guess this is better so we dont scare of pharmas the next time we need a vax? Complicated mess.

The societal implication of mandates and compliance is going to have to be a different time when Im less tired.

 

Good. The reaction I had after both of those shots was brutal.

#ModernaGang

 

I can tell you my superficial research on deciding. I googled at the time, “which does better with variants?” The top articles all said Pfizer.

#mytesticlesstillwork*

*this Nicki Minaj Twitter war has been the funniest spat I’ve followed in a while. Homophobic coons, shoving marbles up your ass, it’s all gold.

 

According to her followers, science is now racist.

I think she's just sad that Cardi B stole her entire act.

 

EUA for Pfizer is anticipated for ages 6mo-5 years in November sometime. Color me excited as hell. We might be able to actually get out with the kiddo to see Christmas stuff this year.

 

It will be interesting. My son will be 6 months old at that point. My wife got the vax when she was 8 months pregnant and has been nursing him. I wonder if they antibodies he gets from her is enough or if he’ll need the shot as well? Hopefully our pediatrician will have a clue at that point.

 

I didn't get mine til I was post- delivery so I haven't read much about how it works for pregnant women. I do know that the antibodies via breastmilk are more like a daily pill in terms of coverage. So he might have something from her shot in utero but once the breastfeeding stops, his coverage stops. I would think he would need either a full 2 dose shot or a booster, depending on how her vaccines worked for him.

 

From what I’ve read, women getting the shots in the 3rd trimester stand a good chance of passing enough antibodies. That article was from 5 months ago and things change at lightening speed with this, so who knows. We will definitely have to stick our 3 year old with it.

 

Do you or anyone know whether it has become easier to test for presence of antibodies? I tried early on, probably a year ago, because I was curious about my breastmilk and nobody knew nothin' bout nothin'.

 

I saw this a few weeks ago. I have no idea how valid that study or the source in which it’s reported is, though. Our pediatrician could not (or would not) give us a concrete response on it during his last check-up. I do know my wife is not planning to nurse for 23 or more months.

 

That's awesome that there are some more official studies on the topic. All the super early ones I read were very small studies by parents who happened to be a doctor or person with access to an equipped lab. All those results were excellent but that was just preliminary stuff.