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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. xrayvision

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    No because the vaccine doesn’t contain live virus. You can still get the virus even if vaccinated but your chane of severe illness or death are basically nil.

    I’ve been a little under the weather the past few days so I had a pcr test this morning. My home tests came back negative but I just wanted to be sure.

    Also, get the booster if you haven’t yet. Your level of protection is much higher with it than without it.
     
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    I’m firmly in the “it’s your choice but don’t bitch about the consequences… your personal rights don’t mean you can do whatever the fuck you want.”
     
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    Besides the "it can't hurt" argument, are there any benefits of the vaccine if you've already had covid? The article states Palin had it back in March. Article also states that Trump told a rally he had received the booster. And was promptly booed. Dude tripled down against covid, caught it, then got the vaccine and booster? I think he's terrified of getting it again and in many years from now, I think the truth will come out how bad off he really was.
     
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    No, they aren't testing for antibodies, they are testing for viral particles.
     
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    The immunity you get from the vaccine is more reliable/long lasting than from the virus. But I imagine someone who got covid + triple vax is most well protected.
     
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    I fall into that category, or will when I get my booster next week.
     
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    Same. Morning after xmas I'm getting it. I'm hoarding all of the antibodies up in here
     
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    As @sisterkathlouise said, the vaccine grants better immunity. Not only that, but it grants predictable immunity, meaning that you'll be immunized to a known extent and can be more certain about how protected you are. Contracting the virus gives you a variable and unpredictable immune response. You may be close to an immunization recipient or you may not.

    While that's true, it has nothing to do with the question.
     
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    My mother in law just came in for the holidays from England with no airport screening whatsoever in Toronto. She took even less time than under NORMAL conditions. That was a surprise.

    Also: nobody but fliers allowed in the terminals. If you’re picking up, you wait at a designated parking outpost until you’re called. Then you pick up at the door you’re told to when called, its an efficient system from our experience.
     
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    Thankfully England hasn’t been fucking hammered by Covid lately.


    Oh… wait…
     
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    I was expecting her to get quarantined in the Highway Robbery Arms across the street, instead it was quicker than De Gaulle in Paris.

    According to my mother in law, they’re simply selecting a few randoms for screening. That’s highly non-comforting as far as I’m concerned.
     
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    Did new studies come out? Last I read - weeks ago - was that natural immunity from exposure was 7-14x more than vaccinated immunity.
     
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    I have never heard that, at all... do you have a source?
     
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    This might make sense to move to the politics thread, but it's directly COVID related so I posted here first:

    https://twitter.com/Schwartzesque/status/1473358574285991938

    Birx basically told the White House they were pursuing a strategy that would kill hundreds of thousands and she couldn't be a part of it, but she was cool with hiding out in Maryland so they'd have "cover" to explain away her absence.
     
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    Well BC's new restrictions suck ass. Basically back to where we were at the beginning. But any large venue can have 50 percent capacity, but my kids that were already wearing a mask can't do sports. I am getting sick and tired of these half assed restrictions. If it is bad enough 10,000 people shouldn't be allowed to watch a hockey game if my kids can't go to taekwondo.
     
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    it’s the other way around.
     
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    So as long as you survived it initially, you’re better protected. Could make sense. But your chances of surviving that initial bout is way higher with the vaccine.

    I would be careful of people using this study as a reason to not vaccinate, as I think it misses a key element.
     
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    I wasn't suggesting to use it as a reason not to get vaccinated. The problem with natural immunity is that you get to play Russian Roulette with whether or not you are one of the 3 in 200 people who will die. Skewed even higher than that if you're over 60.

    I was just pushing back against the notion that vaccine immunity is "better." I think if you HAVE survived a bout of Covid, you're at least as protected as an immunized person. Which is a reason why I object to a vaccine mandate that ignores all the people who have had Covid and are equally as safe.