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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Juice

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    What did you pair with the cornbread?
     
  2. Aetius

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    Honeybutter.
     
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    Duh. Cock.

    Count me among the folks who is on their fuck...4th booster?

    I got it in WA a few weeks ago, and...yeah, still paying attention.
     
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    Last time I had cornbread, I grilled it in a panini press, drizzled it with Mike’s Hot Honey and used it as a platform for braised short ribs. I jizzed so hard I passed out. When I came to, the dishes were put away and the kitchen was cleaned. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Yeah, you've got corn elves.
     
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    Correction: I got the bivalent booster and the regular flu shot. On the same day, in the same shoulder, because I'm very smart but also gonna be flying internationally in a month and I need this sorted out by then. Shoulder hurts like hell (duh) and those "preview" symptoms are starting to creep up. Gonna be a Sunday fun day.
     
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    I did the same thing, and aside from feeling like I got punched in the arm, it was a pretty normal day the next day.
     
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    Yesterday sucked. Started off sick, only got sicker as the day went on. All the flu symptoms, plus a nasty headache. It more or less peaked around 1p and from there everything started reducing. By 7p I was all set.
     
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    @AFHokie that's a pretty good overview.

    The only thing I'd point out is that her point of view as a nurse is very valid in that vaccines are not completely preventing transmission - although they are shortening the duration of the illness and reducing symptoms, which are both contributors towards transmission, so they absolutely are reducing transmission.

    But on an individual level, anyone who is wondering about getting vaccines and boosters would do well to listen to that; the presentation is aligned with the most current published studies. You can set it to 1.5x speed and it's still perfectly coherent.

    The number of areas of the body which are affected by this virus are pretty scary, and anything you can do to limit the severity of the illness will significantly reduce your chances of having long term effects on your heart, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, brain, etc. Studies are indicating lots of long term effects on the heart and lungs, including vastly higher risks for heart disease, in patients who have contracted COVID-19, and they seem to be linked to the severity of the damage suffered as COVID runs its course.

    Yes, the vaccine is annoyingly prone to leaving you feeling like shit for about a day. But you aren't just playing with your short-term health here. Even if you're totally fine with getting wrecked by the virus for a week or more, you're gambling on not contracting long COVID, risks for heart disease, diabetes, mental effects, etc.

    Also... @Kubla Kahn there's a reason people say that anecdotes are not data. I'm glad your personal social circle is experiencing good outcomes, but there are significant risks here. I'm just not seeing why 24 hours of feeling lousy is worth playing with your long term health.
     
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    So…

    3am Friday morning I woke up having extreme difficulty breathing. Called the ambulance, and they were there within 6 mins.

    Put on Oxygen and carted to the ambulance, 10 mins later I’m in Emergency.

    The O2 helped a lot, and things were stable by then, and waited for 3 hrs for a bed to become available. The EMT waited with me to be sure I didn’t degrade before being moved to Emerg. I was severe enough that I was triaged a 2… second highest priority, short of someone coming it with a knife in their chest or something similar.

    Ended up getting a bed in about 3 hours, and was hooked up to a bunch of heart monitors, blood saturation sensors, etc, and evaluation began.

    Over the next 14 hours in Emerg, Covid came back negative, I had some swelling in the legs so they gave me a huge diuretic to reduce it, an x-ray and 3 different nuclear imaging scans of the lungs showed no damage or clots, ultrasound of the heart showed no big problems.

    “You’re a mystery”, says the ER chief doc. Joy. “I’m handing you off to Cardiac”.

    8 hours later I was admitted and in a private room in the cardiac ward, and the real testing/eval began.

    Long story short, turns out that I have sleep apnea, and it was triggering an afib heartbeat (both too fast and too slow), which was causing some fluid leakage that resulted in fluid retention around my heart and lungs. Combine that with all the water I’ve been drinking while trying to get rid of a chest cold, and I was literally drowning myself from the inside. They figure they pulled 7 liters of fluid out of me, and once it’s gone, I was feeling better than I have in months, maybe years.

    They’re now focusing in on handling the root cause with some medication, so I’m still here for a day or three longer as they try various meds and monitor, but all in all, I’m doing great now.

    What was really interesting is how they are dealing with COVID. Lots of PPE, but in the emerg ward, in my “pod”, there were 12 beds. Across from me was a smoker with emphizema who didn’t believe in vaccines, and beside me was a 83 year old old age home resident deep in the throes of COVID. It was crazy that the only thing between me and the COVID patient was a cloth shower curtain like thing, my mask, and her mask.

    Regardless, I didn’t get COVID, so it must be working.
     
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    nothing scares the shit out of you like being in a hospital, thinking you're doing really bad, then looking over and seeing people who are doing MUCH worse. I just saw a coworker today I hadn't seen in a while. He's diabetic, doesn't believe in vaccines, and had a stroke about six months ago so I asked how he was doing since it was weird I hadn't seen him in a while. Turns out he had another stroke last week.

    Glad you're doing better man. That difficulty breathing shit is absolutely terrifying. Do you have a pulse oximeter at home? If you don't, I'd highly suggest you get one -- they're like $25 on amazon, and the ones you find there are the same finger kind that EMS uses to triage.
     
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    Jesus man. I’m glad you’re okay. Are they recommending any other types of life adjustments because of this?
     
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    The pulse ox on a lot of smart watches is actually really good if you already have a good smart watch and are more likely to use it than a dedicated device.

    edit: I should not be trusted on the above statement.
     
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    one of the reasons I'm switching from an apple watch to garmin as soon as the black friday deals go online. My series 5 has been good as a watch, but I don't feel it's terribly accurate with the sensor readings. The more I get back into exercising now that my long covid is going away, the more I want something that gives me accurate, useable data. Looking at the forerunner 955 solar.
     
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    Hm. I may have to eat crow on my previous statement, I swear I had read an article on a few different watches being pretty accurate but trying to dig up that article so I could send it to you is showing a lot of, "smartwatches aren't very accurate on pulse ox" tests.

    So... please ignore me until I find some better data.
     
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    There has been some recent medical testing showing that while not medical grade, the Ultra is damn good, plenty good enough for home use.
     
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    I got my mom this one
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PQ8WTC4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    and it saved her life. When she got Delta, she was sick for over a week and wasn't getting better and her cough was worsening. Overnighted the pulse ox and within an 30 minutes of it being on their doorstep, she was on the way to the ER because she was satting in the 80's. And the numbers it was showing was about the same as at the hospital.